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December 5, 2018



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DAVID ATTENBOROUGH, ENGLISH BROADCASTER: The people have spoken. Leaders of the world you must lead. The continuation of our civilizations and the natural world upon which we depend is in your hands. Thank you.


LU STOUT: And later he spoke to CNNs Christiana Amanpour.


CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT, CNN: So, let me ask you. You are there giving this speech. You’ve given a speech to cop 24. What is your under lying fundamental message at this time?

ATTENBOROUGH: It is a message to the people who have got their fingers on power, the people who can do things in terms of both money and legislation and big practical events. A message from people, ordinary people around the world who are facing the brunt of what’s happening in the climate today and say that they desperately need action, and it gives them an opportunity of 208 million people to express their views as to what they’re feeling about climate change and what’s happening to them.

AMANPOUR: Were you surprised to hear what these young people had to say because always we hear from the sort of, you know, the people in power or the experts or whatever? Were you surprised to hear from the people and what they had to say?

ATTENBOROUGH: I wasn’t surprised, but I was very moved. The fact that there are people several hundred million people around the world are using the internet to speak to the people in power. Television is very powerful, but the many more people that have mobile phones than they have television sets. So where that message is getting to people that we have not been able to reach and what is more enabling them to say what they think about the situation, that they personally are facing and bringing that into the center so that people who sit on these platforms, who control hundreds of millions of pounds in terms as the world bank we have just heard now being very generous.

So they can really hear what’s happening in the world around them. We’re in big conferences like this international conferences, you’re isolated from people who just homes and just have been razed to the ground or facing hurricanes. But this are people -- this is where it is working, this is where the penalties are being paid for what humanity has been doing to the planet.

[03:35:06] AMANPOUR: And you speak with such urgency. And this is a very unprecedented event, this take your seat that you are representing peoples all over the world. Tell me whether you believe this will continue. Tell me about the importance of this hashtag movement, take your seat?

ATTENBOROUGH: Well, we will see. We will see whether people out there take advantage of this and we will see and I believe this is -- we can predict that if they do take advantage of this, that it will be a great incentive to the people who sit in conference rooms discussing protocols and figures and policies to realize that we’re actually dealing with real people, men, women and children who are actually taking the brunt of this on the chin. And not only that, but also the natural world which is also bearing the brunt of what we’ve been doing to it and is facing catastrophe.

AMANPOUR: I just want to go back to several of the things you said in the past about the environment which you are uniquely qualified to talk about it, given your incredible decades long, you know, travel around the world and bringing this to people’s attention in the most understandable way possible. Let me just ask you, I mean, you’ve used this medium television to really make an impact. At the moment how do you reflect on the success of what you have done?

ATTENBOROUGH: Well, I don’t know. I think that the condition that the earth is facing has never been visible to a large proportion of the world’s population and it’s the responsibility of people who do the sort of work that I do to make sure that what is happening is visible to people. Mind you, they know, but it’s also visible to the people who have their fingers on power both political power and fiscal power, monetary power, to do something about this situation, which is every day that passes it gets more and more serious.

AMANPOUR: So, about 18 years ago in state of the earth, you said the future of life on earth depends on our ability to take action. Many individuals are doing what they can, but real success can only come if there’s a change in society’s and our economics and in our politics. So is that kind of the purpose of your story telling and do you feel that some of these people in positions of power are persuadable, particularly those who are deniers and who believe it is economically unfeasible? ATTENBOROUGH: Well, we don’t have the choice. They can’t reckon that it’s unfeasible. That is the voice of doom if they said that. Of course action is feasible. We have to do something about it. I didn’t start by - I was unaware when I started making natural history films that there was going to be a disaster, facing us just over the horizon. I didn’t know that that was going to happen. The motive that I had in making natural world is because I think the natural world is marvelous and wonderful and one of the great solaces of the human beings that we are part of this sort of thing and that is the sort of thing that television should be dealing with.

That is why I started in it, but what you realize now is that if you don’t speak up, nobody will. I had had unprecedented good fortune in being able to travel around the world and seeing all the most wonderful things and what sort of a person would I be if I failed to speak up on this occasion when we suddenly see what is facing us is just over the horizon.


LU STOUT: David Attenborough, despite the broad scientific consensus that the world’s climate is warming and that humans, we are a major cause of it, some still insist it is either a natural occurrence, a hoax or at least overstated. Our meteorologist Pedram Javaheri, joins us now with a look at various climate change denials. And Pedram, for those who remain climate change deniers or sceptics, you have a few slides to share. How can you shift their way of thinking.

PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Especially in a time that we’re living right now when it comes to the fake news that you hear so frequently, in social media and everything that spreads so quickly. Fake weather believe it or not has become something that we get here in our weather department as it relates to stories around weather, but I want to show you a couple of graphics here to really put it in perspective of essentially what is the fact versus what is fiction in the world of climate and weather. We take a look at global temperatures, as we know this particular graph does a good job going back from the 1850s to 2017. The color contours indicative of the cooler air over the past centuries essentially. And then in recent decades we see a dramatic warming trend.

[03:40:01] One of the common myths that we see with climate, of course, this has happened before. We have seen climate change before. That indeed is absolutely true. We have seen that it. It has happened in several times in earth’s history. Most of those changes have happened in the order of thousands of years if not millions of years, certainly not in a matter of decades. And the correlation really has human’s fingerprint directly on top of it when it comes to looking how the gasses in our atmosphere covered that inside in particular, held that directly correlates to the increase in temperatures and again, just in past three to four decades we have seen both the carbon dioxide levels spike and the temperatures follow suit as a result.

And in another myth we see that has to do with the forecast being unreliable as a meteorologist, trust me, I get in way too often for folks tell me and, in fact, they use an example earlier tonight that I went it my son’s school for a presentation on whether to help and understand the science. And some of the kids raise a hand, one of them said, my mom said that the weather folks are always wrong, how can they keep their jobs? And I responded statistical we actually are right about 78 percent of the time, but human nature, remember the 20 plus percent of the time that it impacts you in a negative way, personally that is the case, but even daily forecasts, there are significant variables in that.

But when you look at a broad perspective of it, broad scope of climate, in fact it is very reliable data source where you can look at that and make very good calculations on how things will play out. And in fact we’ve seen them play out even as of right now. So, you go back several decades. We’ve seen it as the temperatures go up, 10 degrees Celsius, .1 .2 degrees Celsius that results in sea level rise on the order of point 2.4 meters of rise. And again, you push this up towards a degree and you can see yourself pushing up to a meter rise in sea levels and the fact, go back since 1992, guess where the highest sea level rise on our planet has occurred about 10 millimeters per year, right there of the coast of the Philippines and across portions of the Western Pacific.

If you look at that you think how did this all play out? Well, they looked at the global emissions of co2, in metric tons, notice the countries and the areas that have led by far and away, places such as India, E.U. and China, and United States in particular, dominant impacts here as far as how much co2 they release into the atmosphere. And then see a place like the Philippines across the western pacific. Some of these island nations there that are being significantly impacted by sea level rise right now as a result of what has been happening since again in the last four or five decades. The dramatic increase in air temperatures.

But another thing we hear often Kristie with myths are about volcanos and how they emit more co2 than humans. That is absolutely false. In fact, you know, the humans emit some 100 times more co2 than volcanos in particular and we know our co2 levels have actually increased in the past 12 months to the highest all time, 53 billion metric tons there of co2′s. All of this really can easily be dissected and broken apart where you can see the accuracy’s and myths and fact and fiction kind of separate quite starkly as well. Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yes. Those are some of the claims out there. You counter them with the facts page. We got to thank you and your team for your real weather reporting that you bring to us here in CNN and also you’re out in your son’s school. That is awesome. Pedram Javaheri reporting. Thank you. Take care.

JAVAHERI: Thank you.

LU STOUT: Now, the United Nations, they want to hear from you. During the cop 24 climate change conference in Poland, this year they have launch something called the people see. It’s an online campaign allowing people around the world to voice their opinions on climate change. They’re asking people to use the hashtag take your seat to submit messages directly to climate change decision-makers. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now, this may look like a very ordinary seat, but it is, perhaps, the most important seat you will ever take. The people’s seat. This is our opportunity to collectively make a difference. Together we can send a message to the world’s leaders they can’t ignore to act now.


LU STOUT: Messages with the hashtag were included in a short video played at the conference. Here is are sampling.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We’re witnessing impacts of climate change in China with our own eyes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is already affecting us in a scary way.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Climate change affects everyone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It will continue to affect millions of the world’s poorest people.


LU STOUT: Now. You’re watching CNN Newsroom. We still got a lot more in the program. But up next, can Theresa May convince British lawmakers to back her Brexit deal? Parliament begins a high states debate after Britain’s withdrawal from the E.U. in the next hour, just days before that crucial vote and as E.U. Lawyers are now weighing in.

Also ahead, oil prices are reverse their downward trend. You can look to the world’s two largest exporter, Saudi Arabia and Russia, but why is that happening? We will explain next.


LU STOUT: All right. The U.K. Parliament may have another way to force British Prime Minister’s Theresa May’s hand on Brexit. Top European lawyers say that the British government has the power to stop the clock on Britain’s exit by suspending the two-year countdown invoked under article 50. This comes as the House of Common prepares to take up Mrs. May’s Brexit plan for debate one week ahead of the scheduled vote. More now from CNN’s Bianca Nobilo.


BIANCA NOBILO, CNN PRODUCER: Almost two and a half years after Britain’s voted to leave the European Union, its crunch time.

THERESA MAY, PRIME MINISTER, BRITISH: If the deal is voted down in the House of Common it will lead to more division and more uncertainty.

NOBILO: This week, the U.K. parliament begins voting on the Brexit deal, Theresa May’s struck with the E.U. but she is facing an uphill battle to convince law makers even on her own side to back the agreement.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is not Brexit. This is a failure of government policy. It needs to be rejected.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you ask me a question am I going to vote against it? The answer is yes.

NOBILO: One of the major sticking points to Brexiteers is the so- called Irish border back stop which is designed to make sure there’s no hard border between Northern Ireland which is part of the U.K. and the Republic of Ireland which will remain in the E.U. The back stop will mean Northern Ireland continues to be subject to E.U. rules while the U.K. and E.U. try to find a long-term solution to the border problem. But Northern Ireland’s Democratic Unionist Political Party who supported Theresa May relies on for government doesn’t support the plan.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For us we cannot wish away the fact that the draft withdrawal agreement continued arrangements that we believe are not in the Northern Ireland’s long-term economic or strategic interests

NOBILO: The Brexit deal is also facing strong opposition for those who want the U.K. to remain in the E.U. and demanding a second referendum.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They didn’t settle it. You have now a situation where there is division in parliament, in the government, actually in the cabinet, certainly in the country, and you’ve got two different versions on Brexit on offer.

NOBILO: On Monday morning, opposition calling for a people’s vote on the final Brexit deal was delivered to Downing Street.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To have over a million people to do that is an extraordinary important and powerful.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People are talking about a second vote when we haven’t delivered on the first when we haven’t even delivered on the first vote.

NOBILO: There is a possibility that Theresa May will lose the parliamentary vote and if that happens, it could trigger a leadership contest or a general election. Throwing the entire Brexit process into chaos.

[03:50:02] And with Britain leaving the E.U., on the 29th of March 2019, time is really running out to make any substantial changes to the Brexit deal.

In Brussels the only thing E.U. officials can do now is watch and wait to see how the British parliament reacts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The time has now come for everybody to shoulder their responsibilities, British members of parliament will have an opportunity to take a position on that withdrawal agreement in the text of the political declaration.

NOBILO: Europe has already warned Britain the deal on offer is the best one possible. Take it or leave it. Bianca Nobilo, CNN, London.


LU STOUT: OPEC ministers will gather in Vienna later this week. And they may have something to celebrate with oil prices rising following a recent long slide. Let us bring up the data for you. As you could see, both up, about 1 percent right now. The boost is being attributed to an expected reduction in output by Saudi Arabia and Russia. All this comes as Qatar prepares to ends its nearly six decade’s long membership in OPEC. More now from CNN’s John Defterios.


JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Some overdue clarity, finally hitting the oil market as the architects of the OPEC non-OPEC agreement to cut crude production say they plan to stay the course. On the sidelines of the G 20 summit in Argentina, the two largest oil exporter Saudi Arabia, Russia, say they will announce a cut in output later this week during OPEC’s meeting in Vienna. The scale of the cuts need to be defined as senior OPEC sources tell CNN business. We’re looking at a level of 1 million barrels a day or slightly higher that cut would counter the eight country sanctions given to Iran by the U.S. under the snapback sanctions and a robust rise of American production.

OPEC Kingpin Saudi Arabia was under intense pressure by U.S. President Donald Trump to keep production at record levels and prices lower, but there is widespread concern in the industry that lower oil prices will undermine future production and investment. As OPEC gathers for their decision, it will be clear that it will be losing one long serving player in 2019, that being Qatar.

The ghost state has been a member of OPEC for nearly six decades, Qatar oil production is small but is a huge player in natural gas supply in about a third of daily global demand and with an economic embargo led by OPEC heavyweight Saudi Arabia still in place, you may find that his energies are better spent elsewhere. John Defterios, CNN Business, London.


LU STOUT: The head of the CIA may finally tell U.S. lawmakers what she knows about the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. A senator tells CNN Gina Haspel will brief members on several committees in the coming hours. Sources say the CIA has concluded the Saudi Crown Prince ordered Jamal Khashoggi death. But has maintains there is no hard evidence. Khashoggi’s murder is also putting an Israeli company in the spotlight this Saudi distant. His name is Omar Abdelaziz, his father lawsuit against the NSL group. He says its spyware was used by Saudi authorities to hack his phone.

CNN was granted exclusive access to the private messages between Abdelaziz and Khashoggi. Jamal Khashoggi was critical of the Saudi Crown Prince and even referred to him as a beast. NSL responded with this statement quote, this lawsuit is completely unfounded shows no evidence that the company’s technology was used. It goes on to say this, product supplied by an NSL operated by the government customer without the involvement of NSO or its employees.

Now there is -- just in to CNN, from our affiliate BFM, that the French government has as expected, put a moratorium on the field tax increases that sugar does three weeks of protest on going across the country. Those protests escalated to riots in the streets of Paris of the weekend. Our BFM also reports that planned meeting between the government and representatives of protesters has been canceled.

You are watching CNN Newsroom, we come to you live from Hong Kong. And up next to your local hub, may never be the same after this. It may look like this wine bar, sold a robot from an auto assembly line, but no it is there to pour your drinks. We got the story, next.


LU STOUT: All right now, still grabbing a cold one from your fridge, how about letting a robot pour your drink. An innovative wine bar in Prague is doing just that. Cyril Vanier, has the story.


CYRIL VANIER, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to the Cyber Dog. Forget about nursing a drink in the dark quiet corner, this Prague Wine Bar is bright, shiny and straight out of a science fiction movie.

The barman? Let’s just say that he is not a big talker. Forget about telling him about your troubles. This robot bar keep is strictly about the wine. Customers use their cell phones to place their order. The robot pours up to four glasses at the time and then delivered to the correct table via an overhead tray. They cyber dog has seats for 40 people over two floors and it’s designed to look like a sitting puppy, hence the name.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (TRANSLATOR): All you can see around here had to be invented. This was a great challenge for people in our studio. This is a sculpture which is a building and a building which is a sculpture.

VANIER: The Cyber Dog’s owner is convinced is convinced that the robot server is a trend that will stick.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (TRANSLATOR): In the future when you are served in a restaurant by an actual person, you will be -- it will be an expensive restaurant, because it will be unique.

VANIER: They also serve food at the Cyber Dog, but for now at least that is still prepared and served by humans. Cyril Vanier, CNN.


LU STOUT: That is not going to work. Thank you for your company. I’m Kristie Lu Stout. The news continue next with Max Foster in London.


(Byline: Kristie Lu Stout, Christiana Amanpour, Pedram Javaheri, Bianca Nobilo, John Defterios, Cyril Vanier, Sunlen Serfaty, Jim Bittermann, Oren Liebermann, Matthew Chance)

(Guest: David Andelman, Andrew Staples)

(High: Former President Bush lying in State At The U.S. Capitol; Climate change talks, COP24 climate conference kicks off in Poland; Attenborough, climate change our greatest threat, warns world is facing catastrophe; Global warming, separating fact and fiction; U.N. calls for global advocacy with #takeyourseat; Oil prices rise ahead of expected production cuts; Russia, Saudi Arabia to announce oil output cuts; Qatar says it is quitting the Bloc next month; CIA chief set to brief lawmakers on journalist’s death; Prague Wine Bar boasts robotic bartender; Constituents that is so upset of President Macron’s fuel price hike express their anger on the street and even paramedics have joined the group to let the president know their stand. There’s even call for the French president to step down; the U.S. and China agreement to have a temporary truce on trade tariffs gave confidence to investors and resulted to positive response in the market; President George H.W. Bush’s body will remain in Capitol Hill for the public to give their final respect, and on Wednesday, he will finally laid to rest beside his wife Barbara in Houston, Texas; Israel announced operation northern shield to neutralize a cross-border attack tunnels dug by Hezbollah from Lebanon into Israel)

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