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And let’s go now to freshman Democrat Representative Mikie Sherrill. She’s from New Jersey.

I appreciate your time.

Look, it’s day 25 now, Congresswoman. We’re hearing McKay Coppins, a writer for “The Atlantic” just tweeted out, I don’t know if you saw this, but I wanted to read it to you.

I was struck talking to people on Capitol Hill today by the general feeling that the shutdown won’t end until some outside disaster occurs.

What’s your reaction to that? Do you agree that it’s going to take something disastrous end to this shutdown, Congresswoman?

REP. MIKIE SHERRILL (D), NEW JERSEY: Well, Erin, I certainly hope not. That doesn’t seem to be what I’m feeling down here.

I’ll tell you, we have been working very hard to get the government open again. In fact, my freshman colleagues and I were sent down here to get government working. If the American people have any doubt that it’s working well, then I’ll let you know that we were the first class in the history of the United States to be sworn in during a government shutdown, so here’s a report from the field. Government is not working.

BURNETT: I mean, you know, what to do about it, though? Should your Democratic colleagues, the ones the president called and said, hey, come on over, should they have gone to the White House today to meet with him at least?

SHERRILL: Well, like I said, my freshman colleagues and I really want to work hard to get government open and to then start working on the business of the American people. So I think we should get government open, we should do that first, and then we would be happy to talk to the president about issues that concern all of us, like border security.

BURNETT: So, it’s -- I mean, you’re still on the side of, open the government first, then we’ll talk. And he’s all, give me my wall and then I’ll open the government. There’s been no movement, it would seem.

But he is saying, Congresswoman, that some Democrats are starting to side with him, particularly people like you. Here’s what he said to Sean Hannity.


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If you look, Democrats in Congress, especially the new ones coming in are starting to say, wait a minute, we can’t win this battle with Trump because it’s just common sense. How can we say that a wall doesn’t work?


BURNETT: You’re a new Democrat. I mean, do you accept that you can’t, quote, win this battle with Trump? SHERRILL: I think the new Democrats are first and foremost on the side of the American people. And the American people want us to get government open. And so, the very first bill that we passed was a bill to open government up in the House of Representatives. We’ve broken that bill up to try to get it passed. And then just yesterday, we passed a bill so that we could open government up for three weeks in order to start to negotiate border security.

BURNETT: Right, but again, you know, this comes down to, you’re saying, open the government and then we’ll talk, and then he’s saying, give me my wall, and open the government and there we are. We’re still on two polar opposite spaces.

I mean, he says he does not care what to call it, right? That’s his move? He’s like, OK, I don’t care what you call it, just give me some kind of barrier. Here’s how he put it, Congresswoman.


TRUMP: This is where I ask the Democrats to come back to Washington and to vote for money for the wall, the barrier, whatever you want to call it, it’s OK with me. They can name it whatever they can name it, peaches. I don’t care what they name it, but we need money for that barrier.


BURNETT: OK. What do you say?

SHERRILL: So the president has money for border security. He has a billion dollars, over a billion dollars he’s not spent. In these bills we’ve passed, we’ve just sent him another 1.6 or offered to send him another $1.6 billion more border security.

I think what might be getting lost in this --

BURNETT: Can he use it for a barrier?

SHERRILL: I think what might be getting a little lost in this, though, is the Senate’s responsibility. So we have a responsibility in Congress to get government open. We have sent now several bills to the Senate and the Republican Senate has not taken them up, despite the fact that we sent -- we passed the very same bill that they passed a couple of weeks ago.

[19:35:07] So, the Senate has a responsibility, as a co-equal branch of government, to get this government open.

BURNETT: Would you give him some kind of a barrier, though? Just a fence, whatever, but some kind of a barrier. Is that on your table?

SHERRILL: You know, like you said, I’m for strong border security. So once we get this -- the government open, once we pass the bills and get people back to work and get them their paychecks. Make sure TSA workers are being paid, then we can talk about the best way forward on border security. And if that’s a wall, I’m open to that. I do think that when we look at the needs of the border, it’s more CBP or border patrol agents, making sure we have drones, making sure we have advanced technologies to stop incursions of drug trafficking. So these are some of the things I talk about, but if a wall is the right thing to use, as it is in El Paso and San Diego, then we can talk about that, as well.

BURNETT: You talk about paychecks. You have opted not to receive yours during the shutdown. The president tweeted today, why is Nancy Pelosi getting paid when people who are working are not? Should the speaker be refusing her pay, as well? Is he right about that?

SHERRILL: You know, I think people in charge of this should be refusing their pay, whether they’re in Congress or in the executive branch. It is our responsibility and our duty to have government open. That is why we are sent to Washington.

And so, I felt very strongly about this, because I’ve certainly worked in federal government for many years and seen firsthand what a government shutdown can do to federal workers.

BURNETT: All right. Thank you very much. Clear statement.

Thank you, Congresswoman.

SHERRILL: Thank you.

BURNETT: And next, one House Democrat voting against a resolution against white supremacy, but only because he says only because everyone else wimped out. And that congressman is going to come OUTFRONT.

Plus, breaking news, Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand with a major announcement about what’s next.


SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I’m filing an exploratory committee for president of the United States tonight!


BURNETT: But could her voting record be a problem?


[19:40:55] BURNETT: And new tonight, Congressman Steve King under increasing pressure to resign. Adamant he’s not a racist. This after the House voted 424-1 on a resolution to reject white supremacy in light of King’s comments to “The New York Times” when he said, quote, white nationalists, white supremacist, western civilization, how did that language become offensive? Why did I sit in classes teaching me about the merits of our history and our civilization?

OUTFRONT now, the one congressman who did not vote for the resolution of disapproval, Democrat Bobby Rush of Illinois. And, Congressman, tell us why. Why did you vote against this disapproval resolution?

REP. BOBBY RUSH (D), ILLINOIS: Well, I voted for it because it did not do far enough. It was shallow. It was of little import to literally millions of American citizens. And really it was not worth the paper that it was written on. It became obsolete before the ink on the paper dried.

So it certainly fell far short of what I think should have been the action of the members of Congress should have been in regards to -- in light of this unrepentant racist Steve King. He has a legacy and a history of saying the most vile things, condemning Americans, and using the official status as a member of Congress, using the well of Congress as a platform to promulgate his vile and racist commentary.

BURNETT: Now, you talk about, you know, unrepentant racist and things that he has said. You know, one person that has been silent here is the president of the United States. He’s been completely silent about Steve King. Here is what he said yesterday when he was asked about it, Congressman.


REPORTER: Mr. President, what about Steve King’s remarks on white supremacy?


REPORTER: Steve King. Congressman Steve King.

TRUMP: I don’t -- I haven’t been following it. I really haven’t been following it.


BURNETT: Congressman, he says, “I haven’t been following it,” but Trump does have time to follow and tweet about news about Jeff Bezos, who he calls Jeff Bozo, reportedly delighted with the coverage of Bezos’ divorce and disgusting texts. Now, Trump, keep in mind, of course, has reportedly boasted of raising more money for Steve King’s campaigns than anyone else. Now he says he hasn’t been following the Steve King story.

Do you believe him?

RUSH: Well, yes, I do believe him. He has not been following Steve King, the Steve King story, because he’s been led by Steve King. Steve King is, you might say, one of his philosophical leaders.

He is in concert with Steve King. He knows exactly what Steve King is saying, because Steve king wrote the president’s playbook in regards to how a racist should really conduct himself. So he is, indeed very versed in the racist antics of Steve King.

BURNETT: So why do you think the president will not speak out against King and is saying that he doesn’t know -- I mean, how far -- how far are you willing to go about the president?

RUSH: He believes in Steve King. He honors Steve King. He emulates Steve King. He exalts Steve King.

And so therefore, when Steve King says in his height of racism, Donald Trump actually believes that and will repeat it from time to time.

[19:45:08] So, I don’t know -- I can’t call on the president. That’s another matter, but I do call on the members of the U.S. House of Representatives where Steve King actually serves as a member to repudiate, to regurgitate, to indeed censure Steve King. His comments should not be given a moment of consideration by this U.S. Congress. From Charlotte, North Carolina, to Charlottesville, West Virginia, to the U.S. Congress, there’s a pattern of racism that has gone way too far in this nation.

BURNETT: All right. Well, I appreciate your time, Congressman Rush. And, of course, you know, repudiating racism, white supremacy the vote today, Steve King even voted for that -- censuring Steve King himself would be quite different.

RUSH: A major contradiction of the whole thing.

BURNETT: Absolutely.

RUSH: And it meant so little that Steve King could move forward.

BURNETT: All right. Thank you so much. Congressman Rush, I appreciate your time.

RUSH: Thank you.

BURNETT: And next, breaking news, Democratic Senator Kirsten Gillibrand is running for president. That’s next.


[19:50:13] BURNETT: Breaking news: Kirsten Gillibrand entering the race for 2020. The Democratic senator from New York announcing on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert”, that she is forming an exploratory committee for president. That’s the first step you have to do.

So what will happen with her past? Will it haunt her with Democratic voters?

Athena Jones is OUTFRONT.


SEN. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND (D), NEW YORK: I’m filing an exploratory committee for president of the United States tonight!

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, the latest Democrat to join a growing field of 2020 presidential candidates. GILLIBRAND: As a young mom, I’m going to fight for other people’s kids as hard as I would fight for my own.

JONES: The 53-year-old lawyer’s congressional career began in 2006.

GILLIBRAND: I want to bring the values I learned growing up right here to Washington.

JONES: She won the U.S. House seat in reliably red district in Upstate New York, touting her opposition to amnesty for undocumented immigrants, and earning an A rating from the National Rifle Association.

GILLIBRAND: I grew up in a hunting family. In Upstate New York, everybody hunts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please welcome, our next senator --

JONES: Gillibrand was appointed to serve out the rest of Hillary Clinton’s term in 2009 when the former first lady became secretary of state and was re-elected in November with 67 percent of the vote.

As she strives to stand out in what is likely to be a largely and unwieldy field of Democrats, Gillibrand plans to highlight her record on Capitol Hill, pushing through the 9/11 health care bill for first responders, the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell”, the policy that bar gays and lesbians from serving openly in the military, and a ban on insider trading for members of Congress. The mother of two will also lead on her record as a fierce advocate for women and families. She’s introduced legislation to combat sexual assault in the military and on college campuses.

More recently, Gillibrand has become a leading advocate of the #MeToo movement on the Hill, telling “The New York Times”, President Clinton should have resigned after the Monica Lewinsky scandal and becoming the first Democratic senator to call for Minnesota Senator Al Franken to resign over allegations of sexual misconduct.

GILLIBRAND: I do not feel that he should continue to serve. Everyone will make their own judgment. I hope they do make their own judgment.

JONES: That move quickly followed by a chorus of senators still angered some in her party. She stands by it.

GILLIBRAND: Sometimes you just have to do what’s right even if it’s painful, even if it’s hard, even if it’s someone you like or love.

JONES: Gillibrand’s shifting stances could also pose a challenge, since entering Congress, her A NRA rating has become an F, as she embraced tougher gun control reforms. She’s also softened her views on immigration. She supports comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship, and has called for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement to be abolished.

GILLIBRAND: It’s just opening your heart and meeting with people who are suffering because of terrible immigration policies. JONES: Another example of Gillibrand’s evolution, the promise she made just last fall.

GILLIBRAND: I will serve my six-year term.


JONES: Now, a source close to Gillibrand tells me the senator believes that the lesson from the 2018 mid-terms when dozens of women ran for and won political office is that the future of the Democratic Party is women and that Democrats need a woman to go against President Trump -- Erin.

BURNETT: All right. Athena, thank you very much.

And next, Jeanne on Burger King trolling Trump.


[19:57:47] BURNETT: Tonight, Trump serves hamburgers at the White House or is it hamberders?

Here’s Jeanne Moos.


JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Feast your eyes on a fast food feast where you can wipe remnants of a Wendy’s burger off your mouth with a White House napkin.

Members of the Clemson Tigers were spotted balancing seven somethings and sniffing at other things, and guess who picked up the tab?

TRUMP: Paid for by me.

MOOS: Quarter pounders by candlelight. Naturally, the president got a makeover as the ham burglar and Ronald McDonald. What would Lincoln think about White House gravy boats being used to hold McNugget sauces?

But the golden nugget was the one President Trump dropped in a tweet, boasting of serving over 1,000 hamberders? Hamberders is the new covfefe, read one tweet.

And next thing you know, aides who work to the president are being referred to as hamberder helpers.

Burger King jumped in: Due to a large order placed yesterday, we’re all out of hamberders, just serving hamburgers today.

Someone else advised, be sure to wash down that delicious hamberder with a cold glass of malk.

“The Washington Post” concluded that the president shelled out 2,400 to almost 3,000 bucks on the spread, though it’s hard to crunch the president when the president first estimates -- TRUMP: We have 300 hamburgers, many, many French fries.

MOOS: But later the same evening, the burger cap spiked.

TRUMP: One thousand hamburgers, Big Macs.

MOOS: No word on the number of Domino’s pizzas. But an ocean away, Catherine Duchess of Cambridge was asked by an 8-year-old --

UNDENTIFIED KID: Has the queen ever had pizza?

MOOS: Has the queen ever had pizza?

CATHERINE DUCHESS OF CAMBRIDGE: I don’t know. I don’t know. Maybe next time I see her, shall I ask?

MOOS: But who needs royalty in the land of the hamberder? This is the kingdom of berder king.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.


BURNETT: That is some serious inflation. Was it 300, and then suddenly it was 1,000? Just count.

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