Crisis on the Southern Border; Interview with President Donald Trump; Hannity Watch on the Border; The Wall; New Reports of MS-13 Stabbing
<Show: FOX HANNITY>
<Date: January 10, 2019>
<Head: Crisis on the Southern Border; Interview with President Donald
Trump; Hannity Watch on the Border; The Wall; New Reports of MS-13 Stabbing
on Long Island - Part 1>
<Sect: News; Domestic>
<Byline: Sean Hannity, Sara Carter, Geraldo Rivera>
<Guest: Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, Raul Ortiz>
<Spec: Donald Trump; Defense; Government; Immigration; Policies; Politics;
Border Crisis; Illegal Immigration; Ronil Singh; Pierce Corcoran; Kirstjen
Nielsen; Chuck Schumer; Nancy Pelosi; Hillary Clinton; Barack Obama; Secure
Fence Act; Gang of Eight Immigration Bill>
SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to HANNITY.
And tonight, we are less than one mile away from the U.S.-Mexican border in McAllen, Texas, where we just wrapped up an exclusive interview with President Trump. We’re going to bring that you interview in full. That’s coming up tonight.
Now, of course, we are here in Texas covering the president’s very important trip to the southern border. And today, he toured border facilities. He met with officers at a border patrol station. He attended a security briefing and he sat down with the victims of illegal immigration.
And meanwhile, Democratic lawmakers, they were 1,800 miles away in the comfort of their Capitol Hill offices where they still refuse to reopen the government and even negotiate all because President Trump had the audacity to try to improve border security, something they supported just a few years ago. Think about it.
In order to obstruct the president’s agenda, the hate Trump Democrats, hate Trump media, they actually have to pretend that border security doesn’t matter. That walls are somehow immoral. Walls they voted for in the past.
And that is, of course, one big manufactured crisis. And they keep saying it again and again and again. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEOI CLIP)
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: President Trump must stop holding American people hostage. Must stop manufacturing a crisis.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: This president just used the back drop of the Oval Office to manufacture a crisis.
TOM PEREZ, DNC CHAIRMAN: This is a manufactured crisis. No crisis exists and anyone making the argument is most likely guilty of fear-mongering and willfully misleading the American people.
REP. JOAQUIN CASTRO (D), TEXAS: Locals will tell him on the border, even conservatives, is that there isn’t a national security crisis.
REP. JUAN VARGAS (D), CALIFORNIA: The notion that we have a crisis there, security crisis is absolute nonsense.
REP. RAUL GRIJALVA (D), ARIZONA: This is a manufactured crisis and a crisis that manufactured by the Trump administration.
REP. ADAM SCHIFF (D), CALIFORNIA: This artificial crisis of the president isn’t going to justify his appropriating money for a wall that Congress is unwilling to give.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there a crisis at the border? The president said there is a humanitarian crisis at the border. Is there?
REP. JIM CLYBURN (D), SOUTH CAROLINA: Absolutely not. We have a challenge. All our humanitarian issues are challenges for us.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: And, of course, the hate Trump Democrats, their best friends, the hate Trump media, constantly now repeating that exact talking point. In other words, they’re nothing but an extension of all things Democratic Party because they are all saying the same thing. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The big scam of the whole address was there is a crisis. There’s not a crisis.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Folks, the president has manufactured one heck of a political crisis for himself.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Donald Trump is manufacturing a national security crisis.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You will hear them say is that this is a manufactured crisis. It’s not a national security crisis.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It remains a Seinfeld shutdown all about nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happens when there is a real crisis, when there is a real emergency? Does he take to the airways? Do we give him the airwaves? Do we believe him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some question if there is a crisis at all as the president has claimed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is not a crisis at the border. It’s a manufactured crisis for the president to get a political win.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Crisis can have, as we see now, a very elastic definition.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is determined to convince you there is a crisis at the border. Even though an intelligence official tells CNN, quote: no one is saying this is a crisis except them.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: They all sound all alike. They all say the same thing. One big talking point repeated again and again.
But we do lose 300 Americans every week because of the 90 percent of heroin that crosses that southern border.
Now earlier today, “Daily Caller”, Sirius XM Patriot’s Kerry Picket, she had the opportunity to ask Nancy Pelosi to defend that stance on border security. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KERRY PICKET, SIRIUS XM PATRIOT: You’re calling this a manufactured crisis.
PELOSI: Yes, it is.
PICKET: Now, do you essentially say the same thing to Corporal Ronil Singh’s family or those families --
PELOSI: I’m sorry, what are you saying there?
PICKET: Do you say this is a manufactured --
PELOSI: What’s the next one?
PICKET: -- to Corporal Ronil Singh’s family who ended up losing him to illegal immigrant who ended up shooting him in your state? Would you say this to families who had lost relatives to heroin overdoses? Because, obviously, the drug came from Mexico. What would you say to families like that?
PELOSI: Well, what I would say to families like that is what I say to the president, regularly. These are tragic situations. There’s a tragic situation at the border. Two little children died in the custody of the border patrol.
But the plural of anecdote is not data. What the president is proposing will not eliminate those possibilities.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: So, Nancy Pelosi, is she going to look Officer Singh’s family in the face and say that manufactured crisis? I wonder if she would tell these families that lost their loved ones that that doesn’t really count as real data, that this is a manufactured crisis.
I don’t think they are seeing it that way. These are real human beings, real Americans, law abiding people. We have families that are being uprooted and destroyed, lives senselessly taken forever. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The way he was killed, what my family is going through right now, I do not want any other family, law enforcement person to go through that. Whatever it takes to minimize, put a stop to it, my family fully supports it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want them to go to work, be safe, come home to their families safely and I always, every day, you know, scared that I would lose my son. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine my son dying at a family outing. A criminal illegal alien that killed him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Really, Chuck? Really, Nancy? You are calling that a manufactured crisis and we lose 300 Americans every week because of heroin? Ninety percent of which comes across the southern border?
Now, these are the facts that the mainstream media and the Democratic Party, they refuse to show you. They are all in sink together. They’re just an extension of each other: 4,000 criminal aliens were arrested for homicide, 30,000 criminal aliens were arrested for sex crimes, over 100,000 for violent assaults. And last year, 800 gang members were apprehended at our border. That’s a 50 percent increase over 2017.
There were also 122 percent increase in fentanyl. And that’s being smuggled across the border as well. Ninety percent of the heroin, that’s smuggled across the border. That’s in every small town and big city in America.
And keep in mind, every seven days, 300 Americans are dying. Seventeen thousand individuals with criminal records were apprehended trying to cross the border. Sixty thousand inadmissible or illegal immigrants are turned away from our borders every single month. And over the last 30 days, 20,000 children, they were smuggled or trafficked right here into the United States.
On the other side of the border, the crisis is also very real. One out of three migrant women who make this treacherous, dangerous, arduous journey to our southern border are sexually assaulted. We need to protect people on both sides of the border.
Seven in 10 migrants have reported being victims of violence during that dangerous trek, and an average of 50 children every day require emergency medical care after they arrive at the southern border. Now, Speaker Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, this is not a manufactured crisis. These are real statistics, real people, real lives and many deaths. This is about life and death.
And as you can clearly see, this is humanitarian and a national security crisis of epic proportions. And it’s a national security emergency that has now been brewing for years. Somehow in 2014 when Obama was president, well then the mainstream media well they weren’t saying it was manufactured then. And they highlighted the crisis.
“The Washington Post” has reported, quote: White House requests 3.7 billion in emergency funds for border crisis. Now, look at this headline from fake news CNN. Daniel’s journey: how thousands of children are creation a crisis in America. Even “The Huffington Post” weighed in with a featured story about the southern border being a crisis.
And the mainstream media on TV did not refer to this as a manufactured crisis. As a matter of fact, we went back to our archives. Here is how they portrayed this in the media when Obama was president.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This growing humanitarian crisis on the U.S. border with Mexico.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As the government struggles to balance border security with a growing humanitarian problem.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nobody wants illegal immigration. There are many tenets to immigration. There is obviously securing the borders, which everybody agrees with. There is not one person that doesn’t agree with whatever we have to do to secure borders.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The White House calls this an urgent humanitarian situation and says its request to Congress will include a border security surge.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: So, they always support the Democratic agenda. In this case, that was Obama’s agenda. The only difference now is Donald Trump is the president. Now for the first time according to Democrats and the media, walls are actually immoral. And many of these same Democrats voted for some of these walls.
And border security funding is also racist. And ICE should be abolished and sadly to them, the thousands of victims of illegal immigrants they don’t seem to matter. Take, for example, fake news CNN’s Ana Navarro who pretended to file her nails out of sheer boredom while a guest was actually talking about real life dangers regarding illegal immigration. Take a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even if I were to grant you that, OK?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The illegal aliens’ crime rate should be zero.
It should be -- you can do your nails. Do you know who can’t do your nails? Are people who have been killed, Ana, by dangerous, known illegal aliens who have been allowed to stay in this country because of the leftist policy that people like you promote in so-called sanctuary cities.
ANA NAVARRO, CNN COMMENTATOR: I’m so tired of you calling me leftist.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: So, CNN rolls out a pretty pathetic hatemonger nearly every night to bash President Trump. It’s every second, minute, hour of every day, and trashing the president is more important than to say show you, the American people the truth -- what’s really going on at our southern border.
Now, that’s why fake news CNN’s Jim Acosta, he took a selfie stick and literally headed down to the border wall. In an attempt to prove that there is no crisis at our southern border. Instead, he accidentally showed that walls really work. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JIM ACOSTA, CNN REPORTER: There are some of the steel slats that the president has been talking about right here. As you can see, yes, you can see through these slats to the other side of the U.S.-Mexico border. But, as we are walking along here, we are not seeing any kind of imminent danger. There are no migrants trying to rush towards this fence here in the McAllen, Texas area.
As a matter of fact, there are some other businesses behind me along this highway. There’s a gas station, Burger King and so on, but no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about. As a matter of fact, it’s pretty tranquil down here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: That’s because there is a wall there. A barrier. There you have it. Peace and security. Walls work.
You don’t have to take his word for it, just take a look at the statistics. Now, the wall south of San Diego, that resulted around 92 percent less in terms of illegal traffic. The wall in El Paso, Texas, resulted in a significant drop of trafficking. So did the walls in Tucson, Huma, Arizona, went down 95 percent when it went from 5 miles of barrier to literally 64 miles a barrier.
And it’s important to note that every American understand what is at stake in all of this -- thousands of real American lives. That’s the bottom line. That’s who we’re fighting for. That’s what this whole argument should be about. It’s about the safety and security for every single American living in this country -- and, by the way, for people on the other side of the border.
Now, it’s your government’s responsibility to protect these borders. We all must demand our lawmakers do their job. Put politics aside. Take it seriously.
How many more Americans have to die? How many more Americans have to get drugs that will brought in from our southern border? We are going to lose 300 Americans a week? How many innocent people get killed like Officer Singh? Or Pierce Corcoran whose parents were on the show the other night?
Now, today, I had the honor of interviewing the president of the United States who is fighting his hardest to secure these borders. And he was down here as well. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: Mr. President.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Thank you very much.
HANNITY: Rio Grande behind us. These are the guys on the front line. You are giving them encouraging messages.
Right behind them is 500 pounds of drugs that they have captured from this river.
TRUMP: That’s right. They are incredible people. We have just spent some time together and we had a whole group at a meeting that we also had that was just covered on your network and other networks.
And it’s incredible the job they do. We really appreciate it. And that’s right. They just have a tremendous amount of drugs that they just captured right behind us. And that’s what they do.
If we had a steel barrier, a concrete barrier, call it whatever you want, it wouldn’t -- we wouldn’t have the problem.
HANNITY: I have some shots that we will show in this. People can walk across the river and take them about, what, a minute and a half, two minutes?
TRUMP: That’s so.
HANNITY: There is no barrier. All those drugs get in if these guys can’t carry every inch of, you know, the 2,000 miles.
TRUMP: That’s right. They have easy access into the United States. We built a lot of wall. We have renovated tremendous amount of wall with money we have already gotten. And we are continuing that. But now, we just really want to get it going and finish it up. We will build the new wall.
And it’s common sense. It really is when you think of it, whether you are in to the world of law enforcement like these incredible folks behind us that understand the wall so easily, I mean it would make their job so much better. And they could also go to other areas because we have the wall, you don’t need so many people.
We would probably pay for that many times in one year if you think about it. Just many times. So, it’s not a money thing. It’s a political thing. They look at the 2020 race and they’re not feeling too good about it, they will do whatever they can to win.
HANNITY: I have tapes of maybe 20 Democrats they all use the same phrase “manufactured crisis”. Interestingly, their best friend in the media are all using the same word “manufactured crisis.” So, we have drug cartels, we have gangs we are dealing with. Ninety percent of America’s heroin crossing our southern border and then, of course, we’ve had homicides and we’ve had sexual assaults, 100,000 violent assaults.
What do you say to that talking point the media and the Democrats are using this is manufactured?
TRUMP: Well, you know, I watched last night. I saw on your show last night, actually, where you had anchor after anchor using the exact same word. It’s manufactured. Manufactured.
HANNITY: Sounds like they were in collusion.
TRUMP: A little collusion. That’s the real collusion, OK? That’s the real collusion. You take a look. They all use the exact same term. I mean, literally the exact same two words. But they had manufactured.
I said where do they come up with that? That’s a manufactured crisis. No, it’s a manufactured sound bite because it was just a sound bite. But every -- virtually every, you know, I call it the fake news. I’m sure you haven’t heard because you are not fake news, actually. You are real news. And there is some of that around, fortunately. These are great people.
These are patriotic people that do it correctly. But, you know, when I hear that term manufactured and you see every single group using it, it’s very sad.
HANNITY: We lose 300 Americans a week, 90 percent of the heroin comes into the country. In the last two weeks we lost Officer Singh in California.
TRUMP: Right, right.
HANNITY: Pierce Corcoran, I had his parents on the show this week.
TRUMP: I saw that.
HANNITY: I don’t know how you recover after losing a child killed by illegal immigrants. I have met and interviewed so many angel moms and dads.
TRUMP: Yes, me too.
HANNITY: Are they going to say that to them, the people that lost their loved ones, their sons, their daughters, their parents?
TRUMP: Well, Sean, you know, many of the people that aren’t getting their check -- they get it they will get it soon. Many of the people they are with us 100 percent. They want us to win this battle.
These people want us to win. Everybody wants us to win this battle. It’s common sense.
Death is pouring through. Not just at the border. They get through the border. But they go and filter into the country. And you have MS-13 gangs in different places like Los Angeles and you have gangs all over Long Island which we’re knocking the hell out of.
But there should be no reason for us to have to do. They shouldn’t be allowed. And if we had the barrier, they wouldn’t be able to get in.
HANNITY: OK. So, the point -- everybody that I have met and spoken to, they all say tell the president if you see him hold the line.
TRUMP: Oh, yes.
HANNITY: Now, you said earlier today that it’s likely that you are very likely going to declare a national emergency. How soon would that happen?
TRUMP: No, if we don’t make a deal with Congress, most likely I will do that I would actually say I would. I can’t imagine any reason why not because I’m allowed to do it. The law is 100 percent on my side.
So, if we can’t make a deal with Congress, and we should be able to make a deal with Congress. If you look, Democrats in Congress, especially the new ones coming in are starting to say wait a minute, we can’t win this battle with Trump because of the fact that it’s just common sense. How can we say that a wall doesn’t work?
They show on helicopters empty fields and people just running through. And you put a wall, they can’t run through.
HANNITY: What are the options though if you declare a national emergency, the Pentagon also has the funds available that they would be able to help support the building of the wall.
TRUMP: If we don’t make a deal with Congress, which we should be able to. Really just common sense and there is some compromise need and, look, they know that the wall is working. Do you know what works? A wheel. And a wall. They call it a medieval thing.
Well, you know, I’m looking at all these very expensive cars all over here loaded up with machine guns and every single one of them has wheels. A wheel is an old thing. There are two things that work. They work.
A wall would be so effective. It would solve so many killings and so much death and drugs and human trafficking, where they tape up women on their face. They tape them up and put them in the back of a car or a van and they drive right through our border.
HANNITY: I guess the next most important question is when you do that, would you expect they are going to go judge shopping. They will go to the Ninth Circuit. They go to California to start the process.
Is there -- are your attorneys telling threw is an expedited way, perhaps to the Supreme Court?
TRUMP: They are saying there possibly is and hopefully we wouldn’t have to go through it. The wall is very clear. We have the absolute right to declare a national emergency and this is security stuff. This is a national emergency. If you look at what’s happening. And you just heard the statement they came in last week or this week from Pakistan and different people. They got them.
HANNITY: Did you see Sara Carter last night? They had people from Bangladesh.
TRUMP: Absolutely, and they come in through the southern border because it’s considered the space and place where they can get in. We want to close it up.
These people have done the greatest job. It’s hard work. And it could be a lot easier and it would be virtually 100 percent effective.
And Nancy and Chuck know that, but it’s politics. It’s about the 2020 campaign. It’s about running for president. That’s what they are doing. They are already doing it. It’s a shame.
We got to put the country first. Finally.
HANNITY: When you see the same Democrats, Hillary, Obama, Biden, Schumer, all supporting this, you know, in 2006, 2013.
HANNITY: They are not supporting it now. Is it because you are the president and they don’t want you to get a win? Shouldn’t the win be about the country being safer, more secure?
TRUMP: They know what I’m say something 100 percent right. It’s not only us, it’s everybody saying it everybody says it. If you don’t have a barrier, whether it’s a steel barrier or a concrete wall, substantial and strong, you never are going to solve this problem. You are never going to solve it.
And I don’t need this. Look, I could have done something a lot easier. I could have enjoyed myself. I haven’t left the White House because I’m waiting for them to come over in a long time. You know that. I stayed home for Christmas. I stayed at the White House for New Year’s.
HANNITY: I think you tweeted Christmas Eve all alone, where is Chuck and Nancy?
TRUMP: My family, I told them, stay in Florida and enjoy yourselves. But the fact is, I want to be in Washington. I mean, I consider it very, very important.
HANNITY: Last question. Timeline before you think you have to go the route and declare a national emergency?
TRUMP: Well, I think we are going to see what happens over the next few days. They should do it immediately.
Look, we’re not going anywhere. We are not changing our mind because there is nothing to change your mind about. The wall works. It’s not a question like maybe it won’t work. It will work 100 percent.
Now, we are adding on to that equipment to find drugs that are hidden in cars. I mean, this incredible equipment. We are adding sensors. We’re adding drones.
But what we need is we need the barrier. If we don’t have a barrier, if we don’t have a steel or concrete barrier, we’re all wasting a lot of time.
HANNITY: And lives will be saved.
I know you are thinking about the furloughed employees. You support them getting all their back pay.
TRUMP: A hundred percent I support them tremendously. But I also support families like the Singh family and others, others by the hundreds and by the thousands that have lost somebody because our policies are so bad and especially at the southern border. They have lost and they have had people so badly hurt.
But they have lost them. They have lost their lives. They have lost their heart out of the family. I support those families. The angel moms, you know the angel moms very well.
HANNITY: I have interviewed them.
TRUMP: I support them too.
HANNITY: Does it mean a lot to you guys that the president is down here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir. Absolutely, it does.
HANNITY: Is he describing the situation accurately?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, sir.
HANNITY: If you get the wall, the drug will stop. You can stop the cartels, the human trafficking, drug trafficking, the gangs?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
HANNITY: It will help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It will improve effectiveness.
HANNITY: By what percent.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like the chief said the majority of our traffic is usually coming through areas that don’t have a wall, just like this 515 pounds of dope.
HANNITY: Mr. President, thanks for your time.
TRUMP: Thank you.
HANNITY: Thank you very much.
Thank you guys for what you do. Thank you. We appreciate it.
HANNITY: As we continue, we are just one mile from the southern border with Mexico and the United States. We’ll talk to Senators Ted Cruz and John Cornyn about the border crisis, as we continue straight ahead.
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TRUMP: Democrats have refused to listen to the border agents and they say this is a manufactured crisis. That’s the new sound bite all over I turned the television, you know I call it the opposition party it’s called the fake news media. What happens is every network has manufactured crisis.
This is a manufactured -- every one of them. It’s like they -- you know, send out to everybody, let’s use this sound bite today. So, it’s a manufactured -- but it’s not.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: All right. That was President Trump today at a round table on immigration and border security in McAllen, Texas.
Earlier today at the border, I talked to the Texas Senators Ted Cruz and John Cornyn about this border crisis.
Take a look.
HANNITY: Senator, you came here. This right over my shoulder.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R), TEXAS: Yes.
HANNITY: It’s like a two-minute walk. Literally, you can walk across the Rio Grande and we saw the drugs when I was interviewing the president.
HANNITY: This is happening every day here.
CRUZ: This is over 500 pounds of drugs that was intercepted right here. I think this trip was very valuable. I was pleased to come down with the president to meet with border patrol, but also to meet with victims whose family had lost their lives to illegal immigration.