Don McGahn leak shows Robert Mueller team ‘panicking,’ Rudy Giuliani says

August 19, 2018

Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani suggested Saturday that investigators with the special counsel’s office are “panicking” by leaking information about White House counsel Donald McGahn’s cooperation in an effort to prod the president into testifying.

Mr. Giulianis comments came after the New York Times, citing multiple unnamed sources, reported Saturday that Mr. McGahn spent 30 hours over three days answering questions as part of special counsel Robert Muellers investigation into Russian election interference.

I think the best analysis would be that the Mueller team is panicking, they know they dont have a case, there was no collusion, there was no obstruction, they cant prove it, and they are trying to get the president to testify, Mr. Giuliani told Fox’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine.”

And theyre hoping that if they put out a story like this in which they suggest that McGahn is cooperating against him--but dont say it, they dont say that--that hell want to come in and explain himself, said Mr. Giuliani.

Rudy Giuliani joined me on ‘Justice’ with reaction to the New York Times report that White House counsel Don McGahn is cooperating extensively with Mueller - take a look: pic.twitter.com/JK2f2NS0IK Jeanine Pirro (@JudgeJeanine) August 19, 2018

That’s not going to happen, he said. “The president wants to testify . . . But hes not going to be trapped into perjury, said Mr. Giuliani.

Were not going to allow it to happen where he tells the truth, some other guy is lying, and theyre going to believe like [former FBI director James] Comey the guy whos lying, he said.

The report said that Mr. McGahn decided to cooperate fully because he worried President Trump was trying to set him up to take the fall for any possible obstruction charges by refusing to shield their conversations with executive or attorney-client privilege.

Mr. Trump tweeted Sunday that the story was “fake news,” adding that he had “nothing to hide” and that Mr. McGahn’s cooperation indicated “just the opposite.”

The failing @nytimes wrote a Fake piece today implying that because White House Councel Don McGahn was giving hours of testimony to the Special Councel, he must be a John Dean type RAT. But I allowed him and all others to testify - I didnt have to. I have nothing to hide...... Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 19, 2018

McGahn attorney William A. Burck released a statement confirming that his client had cooperated fully.

President Trump, through counsel, declined to assert any privilege over Mr. McGahns testimony, so Mr. McGahn answered the Special Counsel teams questions fulsomely and honestly, as any person interviewed by federal investigators must, said the statement.

Mr. Giuliani said the president has encouraged all the people who testified to tell the truth, to take as long as they needed to to do that, and as long as they did, theyll have no problem with the president or us.

And we have no reason to believe that Don McGahn didnt do that, he added.

He cited comments from John Dowd, former legal advisor to Mr. Trump, who told NBC News and Reuters that Mr. McGahn was a strong witness for the president.

As John Dowd, who was the presidents lawyer at the time, said today loudly and clearly, Don McGahn was the strongest witness for the president, meaning he completely gave testimony that said that the president didnt do anything wrong, said Mr. Giuliani.

He added that the president has turned over 1.4 million documents, encouraged 30 witnesses including Mr. McGahn to testify, and declined to assert executive privilege as part of his commitment to transparency.

Mr. Trump tweeted that Saturday that he allowed his staff to cooperate fully and that his administration as the “most transparent in history.”

I allowed White House Counsel Don McGahn, and all other requested members of the White House Staff, to fully cooperate with the Special Counsel. In addition we readily gave over one million pages of documents. Most transparent in history. No Collusion, No Obstruction. Witch Hunt! Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 18, 2018

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