A sampling of House floor debate on the constitutional amendment to limit terms in the House and Senate:

_ ``In whose interest is it to have juvenile representation here? ... In whose interest is it to have this place in constant upheaval?'' Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio.

_ ``The founding fathers could not have envisioned ... the kind of fulltime Congress we have today or the kind of career orientation members have developed.'' Bill McCollum, R-Fla.

_ ``Passage is far from certain. But the mere fact that we are having this debate ... suggests just how much change really has taken place at the United States Capitol.'' Porter Goss, R-Fla.

_ ``Imposing a term limit is like saying the American people cannot be trusted to meet the challenge of self-government.'' Anthony Beilenson, D-Calif.

_ ``Republicans cannot do it on our own. ... It is in the Democrats' hands to pass this. Let's pass term limits and make Congress a true citizen legislature that's accountable to the people.'' Todd Tiahrt, R-Kan.

_ ``Term limits limit the right of voters to choose. I'm not so arrogant to think that I'm better at this than James Madison or the other founders ... who were very careful to protect the rights of the citizens of the United States of America to choose their representatives.'' Pat Williams, D-Mont.