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January 18, 2019

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CARLSON: I think you’re absolutely right. And I think that there are leaders on the Democratic side who sense that what you’re saying is right. And there could - they could be unleashing forces they can’t control, and they might be hurting themselves.

STEYN: Yes.

CARLSON: What do you think would happen--

STEYN: Yes.

CARLSON: --politically, if impeachment commenced?

STEYN: Oh, I think it - I think it would be an absolute fiasco. I mean one of the most deplorable trends in this country in the last few years is the attempt to actually criminalize opposition. Basically, this - this guy’s piece is written in a kind of pseudo-scholarly, pseudo-judicial form.

But it’s full of what lawyers would call conclusory allegations that you’re not actually allowed to make in a - a legal complaint. He uses - you called it general badness. He accuses Trump of attacking the bedrock of American democracy.

Well, you know, that’s this - that’s kind of fancy writing. But what does that actually mean? There is not a - there is no bedrock of American democracy. It’s not down there by the fence in El Paso, and you take a pickaxe to it. You can’t actually litigate that.

You can revile this President. You can loathe this President.

CARLSON: Right.

STEYN: But Robert Mueller has been investigating him for two years, and has come up empty, except for Papadopoulos lying about a cocktail he had with the Australian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom in a bar in London. That’s - that’s after two years of this rubbish.

CARLSON: It was a very dangerous cocktail though. Mark Steyn, put it better than anyone I know. Thank you. Good to see you.

STEYN: Thank you, Tucker.

CARLSON: Well Syria isn’t the only military commitment America has abroad right now. Or - our largest 14,000 troops remain in Afghanistan.

There are reports the President is considering withdrawing some or all of them. Is that wise? What should our policy toward Afghanistan be? And how does it affect our contest with China, our biggest rival?

Robert Kaplan has been more places than anyone I’m aware of. He’s a Senior Fellow at the Center for the New American Security, and he joins us tonight. Mr. Kaplan, thank you very much for coming on.

ROBERT KAPLAN, EURASIA GROUP SENIOR ADVISOR, CENTER FOR A NEW AMERICAN SECURITY SENIOR FELLOW, AUTHOR: It’s my pleasure to be here.

CARLSON: So, you’ve written about Afghanistan, thought about Afghanistan, a lot about Afghanistan. In your judgment, what’s the right course going forward in Afghanistan?

KAPLAN: Well, first of all, let’s lay out some facts. The United States has been in Afghanistan for 17 years. The troops being deployed there now were in diapers, literally, when we first went in in October 2001.

We have no chance to militarily defeat the Taliban. And we have little chance to leave behind either a self-sustaining democracy or even a self- sustaining, very well-functioning, enlightened dictatorship. All the trend lines are bad, it seems, unfortunately.

And what we’re sustaining at the moment is a moderate level of chaos where warlords, ethnic groups compete with each other. And if we pulled out, unfortunately, there would be a much greater level of chaos. And, in fact, the regime might actually collapse in the way that the Saigon regime collapsed--

CARLSON: Right.

KAPLAN: --in 1975. Therefore, either this President or the next President, whoever, is going to face the choice of how to pull out of Afghanistan, because the terrorist threat is still there.

But the question becomes, is spending $45 billion a year there the right way to deal with international terrorism, because the Iranians, the Indians, the Pakistanis, the Chinese, all have strong strategic interests in Afghanistan.

We do not our strategic interests there, and it’s complicated to explain. We don’t have time now or--

CARLSON: Right.

KAPLAN: --much, much less. So, we’re going to have to pull out under this President or the next one.

CARLSON: So, what you just said sounds right. And it sounds like it’s probably a conclusion that’s been clear for a while.

What does it say about our policymakers here in Washington that nobody is, that I’m aware of, is debating this at a high level in public anyway, and that this has been allowed to persist in this kind of counterproductive limbo for so long?

KAPLAN: Yes. This is a classic case of where many people in Washington, many thoughtful people know what needs to be done, but nobody dares utter it. Remember, Afghanistan is not Syria. Syria, you don’t have Gold Star families where we’ve had--

CARLSON: Right.

KAPLAN: --2,300 soldiers killed as we’ve had in Afghanistan. You don’t have very esteemed Generals reputations built around Syria, whereas in Afghanistan, we’ve had a number of very senior esteemed famous Generals who’ve been Commanders there.

Pulling out of Afghanistan would be politically much more difficult, I believe, for this President or any President than pulling out of Syria.

CARLSON: Right.

KAPLAN: Pulling out of Syria domestically, politically, is a Washington debate more or less. Pulling out of Afghanistan may become a national debate.

CARLSON: I think that’s right. Mr. Kaplan, thank you very much for coming on and explaining that. Appreciate it.

KAPLAN: My pleasure.

CARLSON: Well a prominent House Democrat, it’s hard to believe this but, is accused tonight of firing a staff member after that staff member made an allegation of rape. Amazing! We’ve got details after the break.

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CARLSON: Pretty amazing story that’s not getting enough attention tonight. A House Democratic staffer is suing a Democratic Member of Congress. The staffer said she was fired for making an allegation of rape.

Fox Correspondent, David Spunt, is on this story for us tonight. David?

DAVID SPUNT, CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: Yes, Tucker, as you were saying, well disturbing allegations coming from a former employee of longtime Texas Congresswoman, Sheila Jackson Lee.

This former employee claims that she was raped by a former Congressional Black Caucus Foundation employee, and was fired by Jackson Lee’s office after the employee planned to sue.

The former Jackson Lee staffer named Jane Doe in a lawsuit filed just last Friday says a former Intern Coordinator for the Caucus Foundation named a man named Damien Jones, she’s saying that he raped her in 2015. Jane Doe says that Jones was her Supervisor at the time.

Doe reported the alleged rape to authorities. But the investigation was inconclusive when it came to evidence, well when she went to tell authorities.

Fast forward to 2017, Jane Doe took a job with Congresswoman Jackson Lee out of Texas, who became Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, Jane Doe found out that Damien Jones was also going to be working with her again, and she reported to authorities that she had a prior situation with him.

Now, Jane Doe says that she repeatedly reached out to Congresswoman Jackson Lee who would not meet her. Now, to be clear, we reached out to Damien Jones mentioned in this lawsuit for comment, but we have not heard back.

We do though, Tucker, have a statement from Congresswoman Jackson Lee’s office. I want to read it in part.

It says, “The office adamantly denies the allegations that it retaliated against, or otherwise improperly treated, the Plaintiff. It is against office policy to discuss specific details about internal personnel matters. Congresswoman Jackson Lee has an outstanding record of supporting civil rights and non-discrimination, both in legislation and in her own office.”

Now the statement goes on to say that Jackson Lee, when she came to Congress in 1995, was a strong supporter of the Congressional Accountability Act, which protects Congressional employees.

The statement also says, Tucker, that Jackson Lee is confident that when the facts come to light, her office will be exonerated and the matter will be put to rest. Tucker.

CARLSON: Her defense? I’m a good person. David Spunt, thank you very much for that.

SPUNT: You bet, thank you.

CARLSON: Good to see you.

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CARLSON: Well as America’s opioid epidemic continues, in some ways, worsens, a new feature is coming to a decaying metropolis near you. It’s called a safe injection site. So, rather than help addicts get off drugs, many cities are trying to create publicly-funded areas where addicts can shoot drugs intravenously, legally.

Denver just approved one. Bill de Blasio, of course, would like one in New York. Seattle has been fighting to open one for years.

The question is will any of these sites, if they’re opened, open anywhere near the homes of the people who want to build them? The answer, of course, is no. But what is it like when one opens in your neighborhood?

Jason Rantz is a radio host, and he joins us tonight. Jason, thanks very much for coming on. So, this is one of those ideas that’s been discussed for many years that exists mostly in the realm of the theoretical. What happens when it becomes real?

JASON RANTZ, THE JASON RANTZ SHOW HOST, AM 770 KTTH: Yes.

CARLSON: What’s the effect of one of these sites?

RANTZ: The - the effect is exactly what you probably think it is, which is, it has the capacity to ruin neighborhoods that went up to Vancouver and British Columbia. Happen to be there on vacation, and I decided, let me go to the heroin injection site area, and it’s devastating.

You see lots of people who are living out on the streets with addiction that’s clearly not being treated. I saw, you know, a drug deal going down, when I was there, which apparently is not supposed to happen when you have these heroin injection sites.

And it’s - it’s just sad. And the debate has been, at least here in Seattle, I’m assuming, in Denver soon, we don’t want them necessarily in our neighborhoods.

CARLSON: It also is sad, I would think, for the acts (ph). By the way, this has been tried in Europe. I believe, this was tried in Switzerland 20 years ago, and it was stopped because it was too depressing.

But doesn’t it suggest that municipalities are kind of giving up on the people like we’re not going to try you to - to convince you to stop using heroin and give you treatment. We’re just going to let you do it until, I guess, you die. Is that what they’re saying? What are they saying?

RANTZ: It - it’s an unfortunate reality because when they first started to talk about it in Seattle it was about saving people, right? It was about helping people who were addicted to heroin.

CARLSON: Right.

RANTZ: And then it started to become OK, well now it’s just about making sure that when they do inject themselves with this deadly drug, they don’t die of an overdose, which is something, you know, no one wants to see overdose deaths. I think--

CARLSON: Of course, not.

RANTZ: --in a lot of cases, some of these people’s hearts are in the right place.

But, you know, there’s a group of people like myself who say, well, a really safe way to deal with this is to get the person off of heroin. We can offer treatment on demand, which is something that, you know, we have the money for.

I’m in a state where the Governor who desperately wants to be President, he’s not going to be, he suggested $1.1 Billion to save the Orcas in the Puget Sound. And saving the Orcas, very important, but he offered $30 million to deal with the opioid crisis, and it would feel more appropriate if maybe he switch those numbers around--

CARLSON: Right. That’s for sure.

RANTZ: --if you’ve got the money. Yes, human life to (ph) think is a little bit more valuable here.

CARLSON: So, leaders are supposed to, need to care about the people they lead, or else, they can’t lead effectively.

Is there a parent in the world who upon finding out that his kid was using heroin, do you think would say, “You know what? I’m going to get you clean needles. You can shoot up in your bedroom. I can’t stop you. But I just want you to inject safely at home?”

Would any parents say that? Or would a parent instead say, “I’m going to do whatever I can to get you off it.”

RANTZ: The people who don’t have kids who are supportive of this will say that--

CARLSON: Right.

RANTZ: --if they were a parent, and they were in that circumstance, they would. But when you talk to normal people, when you talk to the average everyday person--

CARLSON: Exactly.

RANTZ: --of course, they don’t want that to happen. And I feel like if we’re not going to do that with our own kids, perhaps, we should not do that with other people’s kids. I know it’s difficult. I know that it is expensive.

And I know that when people are addicted to heroin, you know, you - they have to be in a place where they feel ready to overcome that addiction. But something--

CARLSON: Yes.

RANTZ: --that gets in the way of feeling ready is handing them a needle to say, “Hey, shoot up here. We’ll supervise it. And it’s Seattle, so it’s probably going to be a little bit crazier. We’ll set the mood light rights. We’ll - we’ll have some like smooth jazz in the background,” like that’s just not an appropriate way to go about this.

I would rather we spend focus our energy on actual services to save them to get them off of this drug.

CARLSON: Exactly. So nicely put. It is difficult. It is complicated. But that’s what you do when you care, and when you don’t care, you do exactly what they’re doing now. They don’t care. Do they?

RANTZ: It’s a - it - I don’t want to say none of them care, right? I think there’s some people whose hearts are in the right place. But it does seem to be the more--

CARLSON: Yes. I bet that’s true.

RANTZ: --lazy way. It’s - it’s just lazier. And I’m not - I’ve been trying to think about why some people support this, and I haven’t really gotten a straight answer. There are some people who basically want to legalize heroin. It’s a small group of people.

But there are folks in this community who are fighting for heroin injection sites, who are of the opinion that you could live a normal life and have normal relationships and be basically a functioning addict.

And I’m - I suppose that’s certainly possible with - with some cases. But I don’t think the risk is worth it. And so, you start talking to people, they just feel like, it seems like they don’t want to offend someone, who’s addicted.

CARLSON: Yes.

RANTZ: And they want to be there when you’re ready, and it’s a very emotional approach. Again, I appreciate the emotion behind it. It just doesn’t work. And that’s how the - the conversation weirdly (ph)--

CARLSON: That’s right.

RANTZ: --again started, “We’re saving people that it’s OK.” Well how many people are actually--

CARLSON: Yes.

RANTZ: --getting off of their addiction? And magically, there’s no data that they can cite.

CARLSON: Exactly. Junkies don’t feel anything. I know (ph), you can’t be alive if you don’t feel things. Jason, thank you. It was really smart and interesting and helpful. Appreciate it.

RANTZ: Thanks for having me.

CARLSON: Time for Final Exam. We have a pretty different kind of arrangement tonight, a special Husband versus Wife edition. Which member of the Duffy family will take home the commemorative Erik Wemple mug? Find out after the break.

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CARLSON: Time now for Final Exam, where we pit contestants who follow the news against one another to see who’s been paying the closest attention. We’ve got a double Special Edition of Final Exam.

So, our (ph) two contenders this evening have married each other, not tonight, but years ago. Rachel Campos-Duffy is regularly here on Fox. Her husband is a Member of Congress from Wisconsin, Congressman Sean Duffy. And hopefully, this will strengthen rather than divide their union.

SEAN PATRICK DUFFY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM WISCONSIN’S 7TH DISTRICT, REPUBLICAN PARTY MEMBER: I look forward, Tucker (ph).

CARLSON: It’s great to see you.

RACHEL CAMPOS-DUFFY, AMERICAN TELEVISION PERSONALITY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you.

CARLSON: You’re brave enough to do (ph)--

DUFFY: Good to see you too, Tucker.

CARLSON: Evidently, we’re ploughing new ground here.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I’m excited to be part of that.

CARLSON: OK. Well we’re excited too.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: OK.

CARLSON: Now, you know the rules. But I’m going to repeat them for the sake of people watching at home. I’m going to ask the questions. The first contestant to buzz gets to answer the question. You must wait until I finish asking it in order to answer.

You can answer once I acknowledge by saying your name. Each correct answer is worth one point. If you get it wrong, we detract a point, the cruel math of Final Exam. Best of five wins.

DUFFY: All right.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: OK.

CARLSON: Are you ready?

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I’m ready.

CARLSON: All right.

DUFFY: Is there any way I win this Tucker. I mean I think we’re not two (ph) so I really don’t--

CARLSON: No, there’s - there’s - there’s literally no chance. And, by the way, winning doesn’t--

DUFFY: Yes. Mean I won--

CARLSON: --actually get to a victory, yes, there you go (ph). That’s another show, entirely.

DUFFY: I think it (ph)--

CARLSON: OK. So, according to the rules laid out by the National Game Show Commission, all of today’s questions must be either about food or animals. We went with food. So, the first question, this is multiple choice, please listen carefully.

President Trump says he doesn’t care what lawmakers call the Border wall and ordered a food - offered a food-related suggestion. Which name did he suggest? Was it--

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CARLSON: --A, quarter pounder with cheese, B, pancakes, C, peaches?

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DUFFY: That sounds (ph)--

CARLSON: I think it goes by definition to your husband. I’m sorry. The Judge - the Judges have weighed in on this.

DUFFY: I’m going to go with C, peaches.

CARLSON: You’re going to go with C? Is it peaches?

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DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Whatever you want to call, it’s OK with me. They can name it whatever they can. Name it peaches. I don’t care what they name. But we need money.

Peaches.

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DUFFY: Peaches.

CARLSON: Peaches. You both knew that.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I did. And I thought the question was over (ph) by mistake.

CARLSON: You know you knew it too well. I think that’s what it was.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I did.

DUFFY: But she has to wait for - all multiple choice has to be--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: OK. I got it. I’m sorry.

CARLSON: That is correct.

DUFFY: --presented (ph).

CARLSON: All (ph) you have to - you have to wait till we finish asking the question. OK.

DUFFY: OK.

CARLSON: We’ll - we can do it this time. I know.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Oh, yes.

CARLSON: Costco, the store, says it is sold out of a 27 tub of food that has a shelf life of 20 years. What type of food was it?

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DUFFY: Oh, that was not - that’s not right.

CARLSON: Rachel?

DUFFY: I hit it first.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: It was macaroni and cheese.

CARLSON: Macaroni. I think you have to hold it down.

DUFFY: Oh, I - OK. I hit it first for sure.

CARLSON: It was macaroni and cheese. Is it macaroni and cheese?

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: Everybody loves macaroni and cheese. But now you can get--

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CARLSON: How’d you know that?

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: --27 pounds of--

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: That’s my voice. That’s how I knew it. I did that.

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: --with apparently has a shelf life--

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: I did that commercial (ph).

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: --of 20 years.

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CARLSON: How many - how many children do you have?

CAMPOS-DUFFY: We have eight.

CARLSON: OK. You need--

DUFFY: OK. That’s not fair.

CARLSON: --obviously, you need to invest in that.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Yes.

CARLSON: Because that seem like a pretty good deal. I’m getting one myself.

DUFFY: I’m kind of a prepper (ph). Sounds like I’ll do--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: It--

DUFFY: --I’ll buy them (ph).

CARLSON: You got to prepper (ph) it too.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: If it lasts for 20 years, so it can last--

CARLSON: Don’t admit that on TV.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: --for our grandkids.

CARLSON: Remember, your official position on prepping is, “No, that’s crazy.”

DUFFY: I do - I - I don’t want to sound like that (ph).

CARLSON: Yes, no, God, no. You’re like crazy (ph)--

DUFFY: Bit crazy.

CARLSON: --just to - OK. Question three, another multiple choice--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Yes.

CARLSON: --OK? A world record was set this week for the most liked Instagram photo ever. The picture doesn’t feature a famous person or an exotic place. It has already nearly 50 million likes. It’s a plain, boring photograph of what? A, a banana, B, a lemon, C, an egg?

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CARLSON: Congressman.

DUFFY: I’m going to go with Kylie Jenner, I believe, and C, an egg. Didn’t she tweet the egg out?

CARLSON: I have no idea.

DUFFY: Let’s check it out.

CARLSON: But I’m not a Member of Congress. Is it C, the egg?

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UNIDENTIFEID MALE: World Record Egg. An account with that very name posted this single photo. It’s a picture of an egg.

The egg currently has 26 million likes and counting.

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CARLSON: How did that - I’m sorry. Either you live in this country--

DUFFY: Right.

CARLSON: --your whole life and you still don’t understand it. What is that?

DUFFY: There must be like an Egg Commission that promotes eggs. They - they - they’re getting a bonus. They’re getting a bonus on this one.

CARLSON: The Poultry Lobby is behind it. I mean, it’s true (ph).

CAMPOS-DUFFY: That’s probably true.

CARLSON: You live in Washington, in other words (ph).

Question four. One last multiple choice. Chaos--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: OK.

DUFFY: I’m - I’m winning it, right? It’s two to one.

CARLSON: --I’m not going to--

DUFFY: OK.

CARLSON: --it’s not for me to keep score. Our viewers are watching.

Chaos hit Flagstaff, Arizona on Monday when a tanker truck flipped over, spilling 3,500 gallons of which liquid all over the highway? Was it A, chocolate, B, coffee, C, beer?

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CARLSON: Rachel.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Beer, C.

CARLSON: Was it C--

DUFFY: I don’t know.

CARLSON: --beer?

DUFFY: I don’t know.

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UNIDENTIFEID MALE: 3,500 gallons. That’s how much liquid chocolate spilled in Arizona--

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: Oh.

CARLSON: Oh.

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UNIDENTIFEID MALE: --Interstate. A Chocolate River, they described it, forming after a tanker carrying it (ph)--

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CARLSON: I thought it was beer too.

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UNIDENTIFEID MALE: --crashed.

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CAMPOS-DUFFY: I just took a guess.

CARLSON: You don’t see (ph)--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I knew I was losing and I figured beer. Why would chocolate be on a truck?

CARLSON: You know what? You doubled down. And I, you know, I admire that.

DUFFY: Because and she’s from Wisconsin. So, of course, she’s thought beer.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I thought beer.

CARLSON: Of course, it’s (ph) beer. She’s not being like whatever (ph)--

DUFFY: Yes.

CARLSON: All right, final question. The Clemson Tigers, invited to the White House for a candlelit feast to celebrate their recent victory over Alabama, what type of food did the President serve the team?

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CARLSON: Congressman Duffy.

DUFFY: I was there this morning. McDonald’s, from the McDonald’s that the food came from, I (ph) was there this morning.

CARLSON: Was it McDonald’s?

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TRUMP: We have pizzas. We have 300 hamburgers. Many, many French fries, all of our favorite foods. I want to see what’s here when we leave, because I don’t think it’s going to be much.

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DUFFY: And Carlos (ph) owns the store.

CARLSON: And it wasn’t - I just want to say, it wasn’t exclusively, we’re hearing from our Judges--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: It’s fast food.

DUFFY: Oh.

CARLSON: --McDonald’s. But McDonald’s was represented.

DUFFY: Oh.

CARLSON: So and - and our - and you’re right. You still win because McDonald’s--

DUFFY: So then (ph)--

CARLSON: --it was McDonald’s, Wendy’s and what was the last one?

DUFFY: OK.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I was going to say fast food.

CARLSON: Burger King. So it was an--

DUFFY: Burger King.

CARLSON: --it was an ecumenical sort of (ph).

DUFFY: I - I just know that Carlos (ph) owns the McDonald’s that gave the food to the White House where I saw (ph) this morning.

CARLSON: So impressive. Congressman, well first of all--

DUFFY: Look, it’s been a shutdown. He’s had a lot of time. I’m--

CARLSON: Exactly. But I would also say--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: --I’ve been home with the kids.

CARLSON: It really is all a (ph)--

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Of course, he knows.

CARLSON: --it’s a shared victory. It’s really a victory for your family. We’re pro-family on this show.

DUFFY: Yes, we are (ph).

CARLSON: So, I’m going to award, in fact, our Erik Wemple commemorative mug to you, Rachel.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Thank you. Thank you, Tucker.

CARLSON: Thank you. That was great. Congratulations to you both.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: I’m - I’m truly honored.

DUFFY: Thank you. I went and watched the episode that you had with him on, it’s great. YouTube it.

CARLSON: It really - when I’m feeling sad, sometimes I pull it up, and it just--

DUFFY: It makes you smile.

CARLSON: --just kind of lifts me up.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: Or if you’re on a shutdown--

CARLSON: Exactly, that’s right.

CAMPOS-DUFFY: --pull out (ph) the YouTube video.

CARLSON: It’s amazing. It’s like Andy (ph).

CAMPOS-DUFFY: All right.

DUFFY: Good, Tucker (ph).

CARLSON: All right, that’s it for this week’s Final Exam. Pay attention to the news all week. Come back Thursday to see if you can beat the experts. We’ll be right back.

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CARLSON: Well the hosts of The View are about the most rigid partisans on television, most of them anyway. You’ll never hear them criticize anyone even faintly connected to the DNC Mothership.

But today, they did go after a Democrat, believe it or not, Bill de Blasio of New York. Why’d they do that? Trace Gallagher has the story. Hey, Trace.

TRACE GALLAGHER, CORRESPONDENT, FOX NEWS: Hi, Tucker.

Mayor de Blasio was on The View for eight minutes, and used much of that time to boast about his progressive agenda, including his plan that New York City will guarantee healthcare for everyone, including hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants.

As expected, except for Conservative Meghan McCain, de Blasio got very little resistance until Actress, Comedian and well-known Liberal, Whoopi Goldberg called the Mayor out about bike lanes in Manhattan. Watch.

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WHOOPI GOLDBERG, THE VIEW CO-HOST, AMERICAN ACTRESS, COMEDIAN, AUTHOR: So, I like all of that. That all sounds good. You know what’s really pissing me off?

MAYOR BILL DE BLASIO, NEW YORK CITY, NEW YORK: What?

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