CHICAGO (AP) _ Phil Garner, fired this season in Milwaukee, interviewed Friday for the Chicago Cubs' vacant managerial job.

Garner, ousted in August in the midst of Milwaukee's seventh straight losing season, met with Cubs President Andy MacPhail and general manager Ed Lynch for about three hours.

``We had an open and honest exchange,'' Garner told ESPN Radio from O'Hare International Airport.

``The Cubs' mystique is something that we all in baseball are amazed by. The fans are tremendous. One of the things you try to do is help the organization be a winner and that's a challenge. A challenge that looks like fun.''

Jim Riggleman was fired by the Cubs on Monday after five years. Chicago was 67-95 this season.

Garner had a 563-617 record with the Brewers. He was hired in October 1991 with no previous managing experience, and was runner-up for the AL Manager of the Year award in 1992.

Garner was at least the second person to interview, joining Cubs bench coach and Hall of Famer Billy Williams, who met with MacPhail and Lynch on Thursday.

Published reports say the Cubs have received permission from the Atlanta Braves to talk to hitting coach and former Colorado manager Don Baylor and will also interview Minnesota Twins third base coach Ron Gardenhire. Gardenhire was once a New York Mets teammate of Lynch and worked under MacPhail when he was GM in Minnesota.