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February 14, 2019

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<Head: 2020 Hopefuls Bend Over Backwards To Impress Voters; Former

Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz Claims He Wants To Pay More In Taxes; Trump’s

Radical Honesty; Deal Or No Deal?; Trump Not Saying If He’ll Sign

Government Funding Bill; Bipartisan Border Deal, $1.4 Billion For 55 Miles

Of New Barriers; Votes On The record: McConnell Puts Green New Deal Up For

Senate Vote; Democrats Try To Distance Themselves After Disastrous Green

New Deal Rollout; Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar Trying To Deflect The

Controversy Over Her Anti-Semitic Remarks By Attacking President Trump For

Saying She Should Resign; Olive Garden Offers Breadstick Bouquet For

Valentine’s Day; Mom Goes Around Towson University Campus Trying To Get

Dates For Her Son; Marie Kondo Effect Leads To Uptick In National

Donations - Part 2>

<Sect: News; Domestic>

<Byline: Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Watters, Dana Perino, Juan Williams, Jedediah


<Spec: Politics; Elections; Immigration; Government; Environment; Ilhan

Omar; Donald Trump; Jews; Olive Garden; Marie Kondo; Towson University;

Valentine’s Day; Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez>

You’re talking about tens upon tens of trillions of dollars. You’re going to put out this and claim to be a serious politician, be able to stand by it, be able to explain it, be able to go vote for it, and be able to tell people, how you going to pay for this stuff?

PERINO: Can I have one thing?


PERINO: You know what Schumer should do?


PERINO: As a counter-stunt?


PERINO: Tell the Democrats to vote no. Tell them all, this is the stunt, everybody vote no and that way, they don’t have to worry about it.

WILLIAMS: Well, that’s what happened in the House. When the house last year tried to do something like this on ICE, and what the progressives said is just--


WATTERS: Dana, I don’t like when you give advice to Democrats, okay?

BILA: Yes, that’s not going to be a really good idea.



PERINO: They are probably way ahead of me.

WATTERS: All right, radical Congresswoman Omar causing even more controversy today. We’ll show you what she did next.


BILA: Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar trying to deflect the controversy over her anti-Semitic remarks by attacking President Trump for saying she should resign. Omar tweeting, “You have trafficked in hate your whole life - against Jews, Muslims, Indigenous, immigrants, black people and more. I learned from people impacted by my words. When will you?”

Then today, Omar found herself to be the subject of even more headlines, when she upended a hearing with the newly appointed Special Envoy to Venezuela Elliott Abrams to attack him personally over his involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal.


REP. ILHAN OMAR (D), MINNESOTA: I fail to understand why members of this Committee or the American people should find any testimony that you give today to be truthful.


OMAR: I am - it wasn’t a question.

ABRAMS: I think it is an attack--

OMAR: That was not - that was not a question. That was - I reserve the right to my time--


BILA: Jesse, I - this issue of her deflecting and turning to Trump, I think it’s pretty outrageous actually, because this is not one incident. This is a series of horrific tweets that she’s had in her history. This is what you know - this horrific nonsense that she did to the Covington boys.

There’s so many instances you can bring up of her, either saying something bigoted and having to apologize or doing something that’s very questionable, like that - so what do you think about this?

WATTERS: Well, she’s a hostile child, she’s not that smart. She actually called Mr. Abrams, Mr. Adams, when she introduced him. There was an anti- Semitic intervention in Minnesota, in her district.

They had Jewish leaders before she even came to Congress so troubled by her language and her tweets, they staged a two-hour intervention at someone’s home, because they thought listen - and this is from the report, she spent from age 8 to 12 in a Kenyan camp for Somali refugees. Maybe she didn’t know about the Holocaust, they thought.

They tried to educate her on tropes and dog whistles and code words. And this is from the result, most of us came out of that conversation very troubled by the answers we received and not convinced where her heart is on these things. She hasn’t changed, she hasn’t listened, and she hasn’t deleted any of these offensive tweets.

BILA: That’s the problem one, it’s a pattern of behavior, and she hasn’t been stripped of any Committee assignments. There seems to be no real consequence. In fact, Democrats and many in media are defending her. How many times does it take before somebody says, hold on there’s a pattern here?

WILLIAMS: Do you want us go into patterns, how about Steve King, have you heard anything from President--

BILA: Steve King was stripped of his main assignments.


WATTERS: He was stripped of everything, wasn’t he?

WILLIAMS: No, no, no, that’s not President Trump. President Trump has not said one word, never, not a word.

BILA: But this isn’t about President Trump, I’m talking about holding her accountable for her behavior.


WILLAIMS: But it is about President Trump, because he’s saying she should resign, Jedediah. He’s telling her to resign and you’re blaming her for responding to the President calling her out.

The idea to me is this, she said something that was offensive, she played on a trope to my mind that is absolutely degrading to Jewish people, and I think it contributes to the whole rise in anti-Semitism around the globe. And so she - what did she do, she said she apologized.

So, to my mind, what’s going on is here people are saying, you know what you’re not allowed to change the status quo, you’re not allowed to start a conversation about what is US policy with regard to Israel and the Palestinians.

US policy used to be we believe in a two-state solution. Trump and that yahoo (ph) come along, they knock it over and yet they don’t have anything to substitute. Somebody comes in, who has experience in this area, because guess what, she’s a Muslim woman and she says, hey you know what there’s some reason to have concerns about Israeli policy, settlements, West Bank, and the like.

But guess what, everybody else says, no don’t talk about--

WATTERS: No, because she said Israel was evil.


WATTERS: She said they were evil. That was what the controversy was.

WILLIAMS: No, the controversy--

WATTERS: Yes, it was, Juan.

WILLIAMS: --is that she said to them, you know what, we have a situation here where I feel that people are lobbying American politicians unfairly, and she was wrong because guess what, American politicians are lobbied all the time. That’s part of our system.

BILA: But that doesn’t once again - Dana that doesn’t exist in isolation. That wasn’t one comment she made, and now you have people on other networks saying, well you can’t - suggesting you can’t accuse her of any kind of bigotry, because she’s a woman and because she’s a minority.

PERINO: But you also have - a network of the CNN has their political reporter, Manu Raju, who caught up with her in the hallway to ask her about this, and she was incredibly rude to him. One of the books she might want to pick up along the way is How to Win Friends and Influence People, because it actually works.

I would like to defend Elliott Abrams. This is a guy who is a total gentleman, a patriot, a public servant, who is willing to go back into government to try to help - free people from socialism. He doesn’t need this job, and he’s willing to go over there and answer her questions. But he would also like to answer the attacks on his character.

And he could have very easily said something like, is there a reason you’re treating me like this? Should we talk about that reason, what’s the reason that you’re treating me like this?

BILA: Right.

PERINO: But he didn’t do it.

WATTERS: Don’t forget about the gum chewing. Do you have anything to say about that?


PERINO: I saw that and I would recommend breath mint over the gum.

WATTERS: Gotcha.

BILA: That’s the thing too though about her apology. Many were saying that wasn’t an apology, it’s the way she approaches these things that there’s a sense of defiance, that even when she is apologizing, it A, doesn’t seem sincere, and if B, seems like she finds a way to then twist it and say, yes but but but and sort of defend herself in the same breath.

GUTFELD: I accepted her apology, but I do think she doesn’t like Jews. I do think she does and I think that, going after Trump about bigotry is interesting, he has a Jewish son and grandkids. He’s from the - probably the best friend to Israel. He was I’m sure for gay marriage, before she was, well before she was.

And I’m not sure what she’s for when it comes to gay rights, when she supports certain kinds of organizations that are homophobic and misogynistic. I mean she is sympathetic to ISIS. Well, let’s not forget, we talked about that and also other extremist organizations.

She is defending Venezuela’s misery. I mean she - I hope she doesn’t change, because I think sunlight is the best disinfectant. I hope she continues to represent her honest radical self, because it’s good to see that. I want to see exactly what she’s like, and she benefits from - the media’s disgusting, because they’re playing intersectional math, woman Muslim minority Leftist, total force field. Total force field, so she get - this is what - this is why we have her now, she got away with it.

WILLIAMS: --how about the voters of Minnesota elected her.


BILA: Well that shocks me to that as well--

GUTFELD: And that’s Republicans fault, they put - could have put somebody up against her.

WILLIAMS: I’m saying she was - you say she’s honest, the voters not only the voters--

GUTFELD: I have no idea. Well maybe some did, maybe some did because of - because--

WILLIAMS: But then you open the door to people saying, and I think it’s unfair to you, but people saying, oh so you’re going after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, you’re going after Ilhan Omar, you’re going after the lady from Michigan.

WATTERS: Because they are socialist radicals, Juan.


GUTFELD: No, no, no, he’s doing exactly what I said.

WATTERS: Socialism is an old idea.


GUTFELD: Jesse, he’s doing exactly what I said, the intersectional map. You have to be sexist or homophobic if you come out against them.

WILLIAMS: No, I was defending you, by the way.

GUTFELD: Oh thank you.



WILLIAMS: I was saying that you--

GUTFELD: I apologize, Juan, I took the last part, didn’t hear the first part.

BILA: It’s not just about socialism. This not about (inaudible) what she’s doing.


WILLIAMS: No, I didn’t say it.

GUTFELD: I think you owe me an apology, Juan.

PERINO: I’ll take an apology too.

GUTFELD: Your apology is denied.


PERINO: All right, it’s time for Wild Card Wednesday.


Okay, they got me this new thing, twist it around, turn around, turn around--

GUTFELD: I’m busy, stop.

PERINO: Okay, here we go, and then--

GUTFELD: Open that up.

PERINO: Open it up, I’m going to pull out a thing. Okay--

GUTFELD: It’s a boy.


PERINO: We are going to pick a topic - topic we put it in the thing and we go, Olive Garden offering breadstick bouquet for Valentine’s Day. Is this yours, Greg?


PERINO: Okay, why did you choose this?

GUTFELD: Because it’s crazy and stupid. All right, number one, you have to make this yourself. So you have to go the website, you have to download this thing right, and then I think you have to bring it there, and then they fill it like it’s a bouquet of carbohydrates, all right.


Let’s say you love your wife or your husband, and you want it - do you want to put like more--

PERINO: It’s only one day of the year that you’re eating all the carbohydrates.

GUTFELD: Look at this.


Look at this people, disgusting. Olive Garden, I’m just jealous because I can’t eat carbs.

WILLIAMS: Hey Greg, are you in love with me, is that why you bring this?



PERINO: Thank you. It smells good though.

WATTERS: This is the nicest thing you’ve ever done.


GUTFELD: I gave you all yeast infection.


WATTERS: Is that what this is?

PERINO: Oh wow.

GUTFELD: That’s what this is, it’s bread, everybody.

Oh you like when you are funny, huh?


PERINO: Okay, got another one. Mom is going around campus trying to get dates for her son and Towson University’s issued a warning to their student body and faculty, urging them to watch out for a woman, who was allegedly walking around campus asking students if they want to date her son.

Campus police have been called in multiple occasions. Who is this?

BILA: It’s mine.


BILA: But I think it’s cute, only because it’s not my mom though. This is the kind of story that you find that’s really cute, if it’s someone else’s mother doing it. And you’re like, oh that’s--

GUTFELD: What if there’s something wrong?

BILA: What do you mean?

GUTFELD: She could be crazy. Yes, she could be--

PERINO: Something wrong with her.

BILA: Maybe she just wants--

GUTFELD: What if there’s no kid and she’s just wandering the campuses?

WILLIAMS: Well, that’s troubling, I didn’t think of that. But let me just say, your mom wouldn’t do it.

BILA: My mom would not do that.

WILLIAMS: You are a young woman. Right, but remember this is for her son--

BILA: Yes, but I think it’s cute.

WILLIAMS: That’s really troubling.

BILA: Maybe she’s just old fashioned, she doesn’t want to be lonely.

PERINO: Yes, you know what, it’s not going to help his street cred in getting dates, all right?


GUTFELD: I think it’s weird.

PERINO: Here’s another one, Los Angeles Times publishes french fries power rankings. Oh I saw this yesterday. Their top five are, Five Guys, McDonald’s, Del Taco, Steak `n Shake, and Arby’s.

GUTFELD: Oh, what are you doing?

PERINO: Coming in last, with nineteen out of nineteen is In-N-Out. Is this yours, Jesse?

WATTERS: This is mine obviously.

PERINO: Oh wow.


WATTERS: So what were the rankings?

PERINO: Carbohydrates.

WATTERS: What was number one?

GUTFELD: Oh look at the Arby’s, they have the greatest Curly Fries.

PERINO: So, I think it went Five Guys, McDonald’s, Del Taco, Steak `n Shake, and Arby’s.

GUTFELD: Arby’s is actually better.

WATTERS: Let’s try the Arby’s.

GUTFELD: They were the Curly Fries.


PERINO: That’s pretty good, that’s pretty good.

GUTFELD: There’s a joke in there.

WILLIAMS: By the way, you--

GUTFELD: Mr. Potato Head.


WATTERS: What is the one in the middle?

WILLIAMS: I don’t know.


PERINO: Well, that must be--


WILLIAMS: The problem is, it’s got to be hot fries.


WATTERS: They are pretty hot enough for me, Juan.

BILA: They are pretty hot.

GUTFELD: Not when you’re drunk.

WATTERS: Five Guys, number one.

WILLIAMS: Good point.


PERINO: Great taste, McDonald’s always my favorite.

BILA: McDonald’s is always great, yes.

WATTERS: Yes, between Five Guys and McDonald’s.

BILA: It’s different, you can’t compare a Curly Fries spiced up to a plain regular fries.


PERINO: All right, I got another one, Marie Kondo Effect leads to uptick in national donations. So, Marie Kondo, this is mine, do you all know her, she’s the tidying up the joy of all of it and you got to clean up your apartment, and all the women love this thing.

Peter is like, I will never watch another episode of that ever. Well since her show debuted on Netflix, thrift stores across the country have reported a massive influx of donations in the last month alone.

Tampa Bay goodwill stores received an additional 5 million pounds of clothes, furniture and other items, as people thanked all of their belongings and then gave them away.

WATTERS: And it’s a tax write-off, so there you go.

GUTFELD: Yes, Jesse always on top of the financial aspect.

WATTERS: You will thank me later.

WILLIAMS: Do you remember Bill Clinton’s underwear?


WATTERS: I still have a pair.


WILLIAMS: Juan, this be yours, study finds happiest ages in life are 16 and 70 years old.

WILLIAMS: Yes, and you know what, you are 16, your happiness falls off a cliff, it goes down until you reach age 50. Then you get happier until you reach age 70, and I think then health becomes--

GUTFELD: Maybe matchmaking service.

WILLIAMS: --but you know what, here’s the key. The keys to happiness, health, marriage, house, education, and the happiest people, the clergies number one, pro athlete number two, air traffic controllers number three, and here’s the crazy part--

PERINO: I’m not buying any of that.

WILLIAMS: --politicians number four.

GUTFELD: They are liars.


PERINO: Okay, that’s fake news maybe.


PERINO: All right, One More Thing is up next.


GUTFELD: No chance for her. One More Thing, Jesse?

WATTERS: Time now for Mom Text.


We hit the motherload of Mom Texts, all from yesterday’s show. Get ready.


Number one, I’m offended by a great many of your comments.


Number two, Jesse, you are - you eat too much meat, when we all need to be eating more of a plant-based diet.


Juan? You are so misrepresenting these women when you lump, clump and generalize and label them. How does that foster conversation, Jesse?


Foster conversation, mom.


Please bring back Dana; you have lost the balance.


Oh this is in all caps, stop yelling at Juan.

WILLIAMS: Oh thank you, mom. Thank you, mom.

WATTERS: And you must stop being Trump mouthpiece. Do not name call and parrot Trump’s insults, that is beneath you. It’s actually not.


And finally, one positive, your tie knot looks better and you are buttoning your top button. There you go, mom.


Martha MacCallum tonight Wednesdays with Watters.

GUTFELD: All right, Juan?

WILLIAMS: Talk about inspiring, here’s as NFL linebacker Shaquem Griffin at the Brooks Rehabilitation Center in Jacksonville, Florida. Griffin is missing his left hand meets a little guy who also has a disabled limb. Take a look.




WILLIAMS: Yes, Griffin’s hand was amputated when he was age four due to extreme pain caused by a birth defect. But this year, he made the Seattle Seahawks as a starting linebacker. The rehab center thanked Griffin and said they were inspired by his kindness to the young man, but also his personal story of pushing past obstacles to achieve his dreams. Let’s hope this youngster’s dreams also come true.

PERINO: All right, last night 143rd Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show, lots of athletes, look how fast this little dog does. And there’s 7-year-old King, the Wire Fox Terrier, that is the next one, the Best in Show.

But I have to tell you, the Best in Show in my life is Judith. This is Jasper’s sister and she is currently featured in a Macy’s Ralph Lauren ad campaign.

She is famous, that whole - I mean that whole litter is amazing. There’s also, I tell you what podcast, we just recorded it today.

GUTFELD: All right, go to foxnewspodcast.com, I got my new one up there with Howie Kurtz, he is electrifying, check it out, I tweeted it. Now it is time for this.

All right, because it’s almost Valentine’s Day, let’s check out this tale of love. First, it starts out, they can’t stand each other, the cats going after the dogs, the dogs going after the cats. And then something strange happens. They start to look into each other’s eyes and they start to see something that they didn’t see before. And before you know it, it was almost as though they were in love. And what was going to happen? Nope, and there it is.


GUTFELD: There it is, there it is, that is how the world should be. All right, sorry Jed, you are out of time.

BILA: It’s all right.

PERINO: I would give up my time for--

GUTFELD: I know you would. All right, “SPECIAL REPORT” is up next. Who’s there?


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