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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Burger king, Wendy’s and McDonald’s. We have Big Macs, we have Quarter Pounder with cheese. We have everything that I like that you like.

And I know no matter what we did, there’s nothing you could have that’s better than that, right?


LAURA INGRAHAM, FOX NEWS HOST: All right. Some of us are still smarting over that Alabama lost, but good for Clemson who played a great game. And I got some decent food. No Chick-fil-A. Where’s the Chick-fil-A, Mr. President?

All right. That’s all the time we have tonight. Shannon Bream and the “FOX NEWS @ NIGHT” team, take it from here. We’ll be back here tomorrow night in New York. Shannon.

SHANNON BREAM, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Yes. And, Laura, apparently what he served was racist. We’re going to talk about that with our panel.

INGRAHAM: Oh, good.

BREAM: Yes, equal racism. So we’ll debate it and we’ll let those decide.

In the meantime, Laura, have a great night.

INGRAHAM: Bye-bye.

BREAM: We begin with Fox News alert. We have new video tonight of the new caravan. Started walking north from Honduras ahead of schedule. It is a move that’s adding more fuel to the fire in a stalemate over border wall funding.

Trace has the latest on this new caravan in moments.

And breaking tonight, the president pushes back as Democrats plan new moves over a report suggesting the commander in chief concealed details about his meetings with Russian President Putin.

Tonight, you’re going to hear from a former top aide to the president’s national security advisor. He’s got First-hand knowledge of those meetings between Trump and Putin. So stick around.

Plus, we’ll take you to Wisconsin for an in-depth report into the kidnapping of 13-year-old Jayme Closs. The suspect in court today for the first time revealing horrifying details of his alleged plot.

Hello and welcome to FOX NEWS @ NIGHT. I’m Shannon Bream in Washington.

We’ve got Fox team coverage tonight. Trace Gallagher following the new migrant caravan. Chad Pergram on Capitol Hill with breaking new details on Congressman Steve King’s controversy.

But we begin with Correspondent Kristin Fisher and signs. Democrats are planning aggressive new moves when it comes to attempts to link President Trump and Russia. Good evening, Kristin.

KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Good evening, Shannon. Yes, that’s right. These newly empowered House Democrats are once again considering subpoenaing the interpreter who was in the room for President Trump’s private meeting with Russian president, Vladimir Putin.

Now, they first try to do this right after that summit in Helsinki but it didn’t work because Republicans were in control. Now, Democrats are in charge of these committees and this new Washington Post report is reopening that effort.

Congressman Adam Schiff says, “Last year, we sought to obtain the interpreter’s notes or testimony from the private meeting between Trump and Putin, the Republicans on our committee voted us down. Will they join us now? Shouldn’t we find out whether our president is really putting America first?”

Now, the Post reported that there is no detail record even in classified files of President Trump’s face-to-face meetings with Putin, but the most explosive detail is that after their first meeting in Hamburg in 2017, the report claims President Trump took his own interpreter’s notes and told the interpreter not to discuss what had been said with other administration officials.

Over the weekend, President Trump told Fox’s Jeanine Pirro that he’d be open to sharing those notes. But when he was -- when he was asked about it again today, here’s what he said.


TRUMP: I just don’t know anything about it. I read it this morning. It’s a lot of fake news. That was a very good meeting. It was actually a very successful meeting. Talked about many subjects. But I have those meetings one-on-one with all leaders, including the president of China, including prime minister of Japan, Abe. We have those meetings all the time, no big deal.


FISHER: But Democrats like Senator Mark Warner say it is highly unusual, if not unprecedented, for a president’s own advisors to be kept in the dark.


SEN. MARK WARNER (D-VA), SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE: Why wouldn’t the president of the United States want to share at least with his closest advisors what he’s saying with someone who I think most Americans would agree is a rival, if not an adversary in the form of Vladimir Putin, particularly since we now have bipartisan consensus, at least from the intelligence committee that Russians and Russian agents tried to interfere in the 2016 election in an effort to help Trump and hurt Clinton.


FISHER: White House senior advisor, Kellyanne Conway believes the reason may be that President Trump was worried about his own advisors leaking information to the press.


KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: The president at that time in 2017 was suffering from a great number of leaks. As you remember, I think week one or two of being here, his calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia had leaked.


FISHER: Now, if Democrats do decide to subpoena the interpreter, there’s concern that it could set a dangerous precedent. The thinking is that it might prevent future presidents from speaking freely in these high-level meetings with other world leaders if they’re worried that there interpreter could get called before Congress, Shannon.

BREAM: Good points. All right, Kristin. We will debate that. Thank you very much.

Joining us now, former chief of staff to the national security advisor John Bolton, Fred Fleitz. And the Washington Examiner’s chief political correspondent, Byron York. Gentlemen, welcome to you both.



BREAM: OK. So let’s start with this issues that the president is trying to hide something when it comes to meetings with Putin. Stephen Collison says this, “If Trump doesn’t have anything to hide, why does he hide Putin interactions from his own staff?”

He goes on to say, “If as the White House says Trump has no compromised relationship with Russia, why does he go out of his way to hide his interactions with Putin? Does he perhaps not trust his own team not to leak details of their meetings?”

Fred, is he hiding details from senior officials?

FLEITZ: No. Shannon, this story has really spun out of control and I can say as a former executive secretary and chief of staff and as a security council, that the president’s senior staff knew everything in the meeting in Germany between Putin and the president. Everything in the meeting in Helsinki between the president and Putin.

The real issue here is that the president took extraordinary measures to stop leaks and officials in this government, that is, the deep state, who wanted to leak this information, they’re the people who were talking to the Washington Post and trying to create this fake news story. This information was not, not concealed from the president’s senior advisors.

BREAM: OK. One of the top Democrats in the Senate, Dick Durbin, had this to say about the notes in question. Here’s what he says.


SEN. DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: When he takes the interpreter’s notes and wants to destroy them so no one can see what was said and written in the transcript, it raises serious questions about the relationship between his president and Putin.


BREAM: But, Byron, what about that? Because now, we’re hearing from lawmakers that some of them want to subpoena and get their hands on the interpreter and/or the notes.

YORK: I believe the incident recounted in the post about the interpreter’s notes was from the meeting in Hamburg.

And if you saw when the camera pulled out of the meeting in Hamburg, secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, then the secretary of state, was sitting there and he talked to other officials about it.

So I think Fred -- what Fred is saying is right, is that inside the administration, after a couple of really spectacular leaks, Kellyanne Conway referred to them -- conversations between the president and the head of state in Mexico and Australia.

These were leak. These are not leak. This is the kind of stuff that is not leaked. So the idea that the president would then tighten the circle of people who have access to transcripts of these calls, maybe dozens or hundreds had access before and he tightens it up, that’s entirely understandable.

BREAM: Well, in the meantime, there’s this conversation about whether or not the president was acting as a Russian agent in some way. Specifically with respect to firing former FBI director, James Comey.

Here’s what Congresswoman Maxine Waters, a Democrat has to say about that. She says, “Americans should be shaken by what we know of Trump and Putin’s relationship and should not be surprised by the FBI counterintelligence investigation. Is Trump a Russian agent? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it is a duck and the duck should be impeached.”

Fred, if I followed that she’s saying the president is a Russian agent.

FLEITZ: Where’s the evidence of this? This is just -- we hear this over and over from the Democrats and there’s no evidence of this. Now, it’s pretty clear that Senator Warner tried to imply this concerning these two meetings with Putin.

BREAM: On the Sunday shows.

FLEITZ: But keep in mind that secretary of state Tillerson was in the first meeting. I doubt the president would have said such ridiculous things in the presence of Tillerson. And the second meeting was carefully communicated to senior officials.

Everyone knows what was discussed in Helsinki. And I’m one of them. I know what was discussed in Helsinki and it was a discussion that I think was entirely appropriate. It was not concealed from senior officials.

BREAM: Final word to you, Byron.

YORK: On this FBI thing, I asked a Republican today who was involved in this, knowledgeable about this, is the story more about what President Trump did or more about what the FBI did? He said, definitely the FBI.

This is actually extraordinary. We know all of the suspicions that were raised in the public discussion in 2016 and early 2017. And what’s clear is in the two or three days after the May 9th 2017 firing of James Comey, the FBI just has a complete collective nervous breakdown. These people, the top officials there, they freak out.

This is when Rod Rosenstein apparently talks about wearing a wire to record. Secretly record the president. They talk about the 25th Amendment. They talk about starting a counterintelligence investigation. And it takes them a while to calm down. Mueller is appointed and he takes this over.

But this is really, I think, a portrait of what’s going on inside the FBI more than what the president is doing.

BREAM: Well, it raises a lot of questions in that respect.

Byron and Fred, thank you both for being here.

YORK: Thank you.

FLEITZ: Good to be here.

BREAM: All right. This is a Fox News alert. The party of Lincoln says it will not tolerate comments about White supremacy from within its own ranks. And the GOP is moving against Congressman Steve King of Iowa. But is the Republican Party going far enough to silence critics on both the right and left?

Checking with senior Capitol Hill producer, Chad Pergram, live on the Hill tonight with the newest moves against the congressman. Hey, Chad.

CHAD PERGRAM, FOX NEWS SENIOR CAPITOL HILL PRODUCER: Shannon, in the previous Congress, Republican Iowa Congressman Steve King, served on the Agriculture Committee, the Judiciary Committee and the Small Business Committee. But no more.


KEVIN MCCARTHY (R-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: We made a decision tonight that Steve King will not be serving on committees on this Congress.

I think it’s that clear across the country about how seriously Republican Party believes that all men and women are created equal.


PERGRAM: And here’s the reason why Republicans are so concerned. Look at the midterm elections. They did not perform well with minority voters. Look at the diversity of the House Democratic Caucus, the freshman class that came in, women, Muslims, minorities, Native Americans. A lot of White men in the Republican conference here.

Now, Steve King, he met with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy. Here’s part of his statement after that session tonight. He said, “McCarthy’s decision to remove me from committees is a political decision that ignores the truth. I told him, you do what you have to do and I will do what I have to do.”

Now, there are three official modes of sanction in the House of Representatives. There’s reprimand, there is censure and there’s expulsion.

Now, Jim Clyburn, the Democratic whip, he is introducing a resolution of disapproval where the House of Representatives tomorrow would disapprove of these remarks by Steve King.

This is a similar tactic that Clyburn initiated in 2009 when Joe Wilson, the Republican congressman from South Carolina heckled President Obama on the House floor.

Now, Bobby Rush is a Democratic congressman from Illinois. He doesn’t think that this goes far enough. He has introduced a censure resolution. Listen to Congressman Rush.


REP. BOBBY RUSH (D), ILLINOIS: In ethic (INAUDIBLE) and show him physically who’s superior, I would. But that would mean that I would be brought down to his level.


PERGRAM: Now, there’s only been a few times that they have actually censured people here in Congress, 23, to be specific. The last being Charlie Rangel in December of 2010.

The House can adjudicate all of its members. It would take a full House vote but we’re expecting at a minimum this resolution of disapproval on the House floor. Tomorrow, that takes a two-thirds vote. Shannon.

BREAM: All right. Chad, thank you very much for working late with us. Great to see you and we’ll discuss with the panel coming up. Thank you, Chad.

Another Fox News alert now. Governments from Guatemala City to Mexico City. And here in Washington, all watching the movements of a brand-new caravan.

President Trump warning those governments they must do more this time to stop the caravan in its tracks before it’s too late.

Trace Gallagher is on the case for us tonight. Hello, Trace.

TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Shannon. The latest caravan was supposed to leave Honduras at dawn tomorrow morning but we have just been notified it is now on the move and we have the pictures to prove it.

We don’t have exact numbers of how many migrants are heading north but a Guatemala journalist estimates about 1,000, meaning it is smaller than previous caravans.

But the direction is expected to be the same. First through Guatemala, then into Southern Mexico and onto the U.S. border with Mexico. It’s unclear who might be organizing or compelling Central Americans to make this trip or if the caravan is aware that previous asylum-seekers have largely gotten stuck in Mexico.

Today, a representative for the U.S. embassy traveled to the Guatemala border to inform the migrants not to, quote, “Invest time and money in a journey that is destined to fail.”

But for many of those determined to go, it is the U.S. or bust. Watch.


ROLANDO LAZARO BAUTISTA, UNEMPLOYED HONDURAN (through translator): The hope is to go and work if I can. I know I will find work. I know there is work. Most people I know are heading over there because that’s where they see their future. There is no future here.


GALLAGHER: Others say they plan to travel with children believing it will increase their odds of getting into the U.S. But the migrants could initially face resistance from their own governments, the embattled presidents of both Honduras and Guatemala are very eager to maintain the support of the Trump administration, meaning the money.

And today, the president made it clear that support is in jeopardy. Listen.


TRUMP: So those days are over. So I said just before I came, we’re looking at a whole plan. Why are we sending them money if they’re allowing caravans to form right in the middle of their cities?


GALLAGHER: The president went on to say the migrants won’t be stopped by drones or sensors, but they would be stopped by a, quote, “nice powerful wall” and he’s not backing away from the $5.7 billion he wants to build that structure and so goes the partial government shutdown.

So now that the caravan has left, that puts them in southern Mexico around 10 days from now and Mexico’s new president, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, has vowed to treat the migrants more humanely than the previous administration has done. Shannon.

BREAM: All right. Trace Gallagher, thank you very much.

Well, over the weekend of the president tweeting immigrant crime data from the state of Texas.

Well, now there’s plenty of dispute over those numbers. So let’s bring in the attorney general of Texas, Ken Paxton, to set the record straight. And Angel Mom, Sabine Durden. Her son Dominic was killed by an illegal immigrant. We welcome you both tonight. Thanks for being with us.



BREAM: OK. So I want to read a little bit of this. The President tweeted this. He says, the Trump portrait, he’s quoting someone talking about him of an unstable border crisis is dead on in the last two years. ICE officers 266 thousand arrested aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes and 4,000 violent killings. But Mr. Attorney general, I want to contrast that with something we got from Cato.

They say that we estimate that native-born Texans had a first time criminal conviction rate of 683 per 100,000 natives in 2016. In the same year we estimate that illegal immigrants had a first time criminal conviction rate of 420 -- 462 for 100,000 illegal immigrants. 32 percent below that of native-born Americans. Can all of these things be true?

PAXTON: Look, I don’t know the accuracy of their study, whether it’s true or not. But what I do we have crime on the board. I know that drugs are coming across the border. I know there’s human trafficking. I know there’s all kinds of crime including what we have murders. Hundreds of murders. And so you just need to talk to a couple of those families and see if they think those statistics from Cato really matter when it’s affecting individual lives in our state and in my state.

BREAM: Yes. And Sabine, I want to give you a chance to answer that directly. I want to read something after the President’s speech last Tuesday night. Talking to the country, talking to the nation from the Oval Office about this issue, the progressive responds this way, the headline is the wall, the perfect prop for Trump’s racist stagecraft, they say Trump falsely claims after listing several heinous crimes that undocumented immigrants are making us less safe.

At one point asking how much more American blood must we shed before Congress does its job? They don’t want to say several studies have illuminated the opposite is true. The United States would actually be less safe without undocumented immigrants. As somebody who has suffered this directly and personally I want to give you a chance to respond to that.

DURDEN: It’s absolute insanity because one death is one too many. I don’t care if it’s 10 percent, 100 percent, 50. And I’m tired of hearing about that Illegals commit less crimes. They should commit zero crimes. This is my son. That’s all I have left of him as ashes. And this is not a manufactured crisis, this is real. This affected my life, it destroyed my family and I’m tired of being insulted and re-victimized by politicians who don’t speak up for us.

They speak up for illegals, for lawbreakers. I’m a legal immigrant. I stood in line. I didn’t drive my son across borders or pushing through a fence. And we need to stand behind our President because he’s doing what will save other families from suffering like I do and still do. It’s almost seven years and it doesn’t get any easier.

BREAM: Sabine, what would you say to people on both sides of the aisle who have not gotten this done, whether it’s border protection, whether it’s a physical barrier, what is your message about this impasse and the fact that nothing is getting accomplished on that front by either party?

DURDEN: I want each one of those people whether they like what our president does or not, whether they agree with a wall, imagine their child on a slab in a morgue and they get to kiss that child or their loved one for the last time because somebody else didn’t protect them. That wall will absolutely protect us. It will slow everything down and we can start cleaning up within the country and get back to normal help and American citizens, not illegals.

We need that money for our own people and as long as we have veterans sleeping out on the street and American kids hungry I think that’s where we need to start. So they need to get with it. And I still challenge Pelosi and Schumer, come meet my son. Meet me face to face. Give me five minutes. I’m not -- I’m just -- I just want mother to mother to look you in the eyes and ask you if you want to feel this way.

BREAM: Well, Sabine, we cannot begin to imagine what you have been through. And we thank you for sharing your story. Hopefully it’s going to get through to people across party lines to actually get something done. Mr. Attorney General, thank you for being with us as well.

PAXTON: Thanks for having me on.

BREAM: Well, President Trump hosting the Clemson University football team at the White House night after winning their national championship game. Now the President’s critics are calling him racist for serving fast food.


TRUMP: And I said you guys aren’t into salads. Burger King, Wendy’s and McDonald’s. We have Big Macs, we have a quarter pounders with cheese, everything that I like that you like.


BREAM: And later, another Federal judge rules against the President’s policies and this time it could once again mean an order of nuns will be forced to foot the bill for contraception they say violates their core religious beliefs. Plus, the power panel examines the Steve King demotion, Josh, Charlie and Jason, who you will remember was oversight chairman back in the day. They’re all with us next, stick around.



TRUMP: No food for you because we have a shutdown. I said you guys aren’t into salads. Do I go out and send out for about 1,000 hamburgers? Burger King, Wendy’s and McDonald’s. We have Big Macs, we have quarter pounder with cheese, we have everything that I like that you like. And I know no matter what we did there’s nothing you can have that’s better than that.


BREAM: OK. You heard them laughing there but tonight critics are calling President Trump racist for serving fast food to the Clemson University football team following their national championship win. So let’s discuss that and more with tonight’s power panel and Fox News Contributor Jason Chaffetz, the communication director for Priorities USA, Josh Schwerin and Fox News Contributor Charlie Hurt. Welcome to all of you.


BREAM: OK. So Dan Pfeiffer, our audience may know him well, he tweets out this, Trump patting himself on the back because he paid for this. For paying for the cheapest food available for the Clemson Football Team after the shutdown. He shut down the government. It’s about as Trump as you can get. In so many ways, Trump is a racist, angry version of Michael Scott. Charlie? By the way, the office is the best show ever on T.V. other than this one.

HURT: It is, it is. We’ve hit rock bottom here. You know, It’s funny actually. When I got that -- the full report from the White House I cut and pasted it and sent it to all my kids, all my nephews and of course they all sent back, oh, this is the best ever, this is what I would like to eat at the White House. So, you know, it does underscore sort of a larger problem I think with the discourse in Washington today.

I mean, you -- and Democrats are far more to blame for it than I think Republicans are. The willingness to talk about -- accuse people of being racist for absolutely no, you know, reason whatsoever. There was a time when we all took racism very seriously and you didn’t accuse somebody of being a racist because they ordered fast food for people. It’s insane.

BREAM: Well, josh, I will let you address that. I mean, the President said he did this out of his own pocket because of the shutdown and the lack of staffing and people that would have been to there -- to prepare for these guys so he thought at least that he was doing something fun that they would like that he was paying for it. Could he have gotten this right no matter what he did? Or is his critics just going to hate him no matter what?

JOSH SCHWERIN, COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR, PRIORITIES USA: I think this was more common on the absurdity of the -- absurdity of the situation comparing it to a scene in the office and I think the racism was tacked on as like Michael Scott would’ve done this in the office, oh, and Donald Trump is also angry and racist. And I think there are very good reasons for calling him that. There’s a reason Paul Ryan accused them of textbook racism when he set a judge couldn’t be biased.

BREAM: But buying whoppers?

SCHWERIN: No. I don’t think Dan is saying that this instance was racist. I think he saying this instance was absurd and belongs in the office, not the White House and also Donald Trump is angry and racist. He’s like Michael Scott and he’s also angry and racist. That’s how I read it.

BREAM: All right. Jason, what you make of this?

JASON CHAFFETZ, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I -- if I went to the White House and they could get a big mat, no pickles, no onions, I would love it. That’s the first choice on the menu. This is absurd and it’s the Democrats just overreaching every time to try and say it over and over and it dilutes when something actually serious like the Steve king situation comes up. But the President was doing something fun and I think everybody there got it and understood it.

It’s only the Democrats who try to exploit it for political purposes.

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